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Which is, actually, either in overall or in some characteristics, the most effective juggernaut in FreeSpace?

GTVA Colossus
3 (8.3%)
SJ Sathanas
16 (44.4%)
SJ Amritaya
1 (2.8%)
AJ Akrotiri
1 (2.8%)
AJ Androgeos (Inferno)
0 (0%)
Vishnan Preserver
3 (8.3%)
GTVA Titan
6 (16.7%)
GTDn Archangel
1 (2.8%)
GTVBs Archangel Mk. II
4 (11.1%)
SODn Solaris
1 (2.8%)

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Offline Marcov

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Before you leave this thread after voting, please take note of these questions:

1. Which juggernaut is most dangerous against fighters?

2. Which is the most dangerous against capital ships?

3. In your opinion, which is the most effective, overall?

4. Which looks the coolest?

If I've missed any other juggernaut, please inform me.

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Offline Scotty

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1.  Can't objectively evaluate, but the Sath always pisses me off with it's beams.

2.  Sath.  4 BFReds is painful.  The Phoenicia agrees with me.

3.  Sath does what it means to, namely, beat the **** out of other ships.

4.  Sath.  Spider of Doom.  That shoots beams.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Well, in Retail, the one and only Juggernaut in the game, the Sathanas. :P
There's only one instance in the entire FreeSpace 2 game that gives evidence of the Colossus's intended class and that is Battleship, which is frankly, not Juggernaut. :P

 

Offline Hades

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There's only one instance in the entire FreeSpace 2 game that gives evidence of the Colossus's intended class and that is Battleship
What was that?

Honestly, the Sathanas, Colossus, and most other juggernauts on that list are ugly. I think I like the Titan the best.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline Droid803

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That's a SiegeDriver from Sword of the Stars. lol.
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Offline Hades

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That's a SiegeDriver from Sword of the Stars. lol.
I am very aware of this, it was actually said in the release thread with Vengence (misspelling happens to be his username) released it.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Well, it's still badass.
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Offline Commander Zane

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There's only one instance in the entire FreeSpace 2 game that gives evidence of the Colossus's intended class and that is Battleship
What was that?

Honestly, the Sathanas, Colossus, and most other juggernauts on that list are ugly. I think I like the Titan the best.
Colossus cinematic.

And yes, the Titan is simply badass. :D

 

Offline Hades

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What evidence? I just watched the cinematic and I didn't see anything that remotely suggests that the Colossus is a battleship.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline Commander Zane

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It's in the form of a subliminal message, it's hard to see but at the same time it's in plain sight.

Try looking for "GTVA Battle Ship of massive proportions."
« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 09:13:36 pm by Commander Zane »

 

Offline Scotty

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Try it without the random capital letters and it can still be a Juggernaut, seeing as "battleship" can just a likely refer to a ship that does battle. ;)

 

Offline Snail

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It's in the form of a subliminal message, it's hard to see but at the same time it's in plain sight.

Try looking for "GTVA Battle Ship of epic proportions."
Which was obviously an easter egg and shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Try it without the random capital letters and it can still be a Juggernaut, seeing as "battleship" can just a likely refer to a ship that does battle. ;)
I typed it verbatim.
Well not quite verbatim, it should say massive proportions. :nervous:
Now it is.

It's in the form of a subliminal message, it's hard to see but at the same time it's in plain sight.

Try looking for "GTVA Battle Ship of epic proportions."
Which was obviously an easter egg and shouldn't be taken seriously.
It is the ONLY evidence of a classification. The way I see it's simply ignorance to try to even push away the one and only existing hint of what it is.

 

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It's in the form of a subliminal message, it's hard to see but at the same time it's in plain sight.

Try looking for "GTVA Battle Ship of epic proportions."
Which was obviously an easter egg and shouldn't be taken seriously.
It is the ONLY evidence of a classification. The way I see it's simply ignorance to try to even push away the one and only existing hint of what it is.
Fine if that's what you think.

 

Offline Aardwolf

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1. Idunno

2. Dangerous to capships, without being absurd? I'd say Inferno's SCa Shiamak.

3. Idunno

4. SJ Sathanas, or if it were upgraded (nice base design but low-detail / 'meh' textures), Inferno's SCa Shiamak.

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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I think juggernauts are supposed to be able to fight against ships of equal size. Which the Colossus was not build for : it's definitely a destroyer killer and nothing else. Feel free to think it as my own interpretation though.
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Try it without the random capital letters and it can still be a Juggernaut, seeing as "battleship" can just a likely refer to a ship that does battle. ;)
I typed it verbatim.
Well not quite verbatim, it should say massive proportions. :nervous:
Now it is.

It's in the form of a subliminal message, it's hard to see but at the same time it's in plain sight.

Try looking for "GTVA Battle Ship of epic proportions."
Which was obviously an easter egg and shouldn't be taken seriously.
It is the ONLY evidence of a classification. The way I see it's simply ignorance to try to even push away the one and only existing hint of what it is.
In retail colossus is clearly meant to be the GTVA's version of the Sathanas. See: both have the same armour, the same length, and are both the species super-capship of Doom!!TM, even if, later on the Sathanas Juggernauts outnumbered the collosus >80 to one, the Sathanas did not grow in size and power, only numbers (albeit, supernova). Also note that the colossus and sathanas have equal casualties; colly kills sath, sath kills colly. It seems to be quite implied that the Colossus is on the same level as the Sathanas, to create a far greater realisation of "we are so in for it" when >80 show up. This seems to contradict, however slightly the "ONLY evidence of classification" it being dug up from a text reference in passing during a cinematic, which in the original game, read absurd text such as "Maths is cool" (pffft!)(or is it math is cool...) and is clearly not meant to be legible.
And, obviously due to the GTVA designation, the Colossus is definitely meant to be an advanced warning and control system following the line that freespace ships follow.

 

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And I vote for Stratcomm's Archangel dreadnought.
It's a great design, with one big, honkin' cannon on the front, two just big cannons on the top and bottom, and a whole load of standard sized heavy beams.
Plus a load of AAA beams scattered across it's hull and if that wasn't enough, it have some flak cannons and missile launchers.
If it was HTLed, it would be even better.