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Offline Warlock

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1: Sw was getting the shaft the hard way without any vasiline for over a year before the THQ purchase of :v:

2: Todd, and SEVERAL other "admin" were said to have been hired to be dedicated for web delvelopment.

3: Todd and Nathan both took turns posting to tell us they would restart supportting SW, that was as far as it went...telling us and NEVER doing.

4: They've stated resetting a league takes TWO hours tops, we know clearing a locked match is MUCH less time than this, they just delete it. We LONG ago gave up on requesting a judgment and having the match forfeited to a victor. Now we can't even get them just cleared.

5: We didn't ask for the world, just common support.

6: All the time's they COULD have at least posted info or been a board Admin, notice last night ALL the chances, banning me, slowly cranking up the flood control, deleting posts (yes I count at LEAST 5 posts not threads posts , were deleted,...ALL of this 4 hours AFTER the work day at :v:


I for one will NEVER own another :v: opr THQ product. I'll do what I can to inform others as to the shotty support, Hell even Summoner and RF got nothing RIGHT off the bat.

"Here have one patch and STFU"

This is NOT how you run a PC software company. Someone pointed out the Sims about this. That game is NOT all that, yet they kept making expansions,...FIVE now,..Full game is STILL $50, each add on STILL $30. Why ? Before the game is boring they tos out new add on packs. The site supports the game, they release a few freebie add ons here and there to keep ppl interested.

Anyhow I contacted Computer gaming World last night about all this...could be interesting if they post an article especially after all the years of TRYING to get support and NOTHING .



As for the ppl that folks think are now flaming to flame on the VBB. More like this was a last straw. You can't screw with ppl too much before they slam your head into the mud. I know alot of you single player only ppl will never truely understand, for you the game was fine after the patch. For SW and general onlione ppl, it's been buggy and in need of ALOT since day 1 thou :(


Well off to work...laters
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Offline Crazy_Ivan80

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I'm heading to the armoury to get some kick-ass weapons (that shotgun under the seat is wimpy :p) in case those Flaming Newbies (he, sounds like a certain drink from a certain Simpsons-episode) arrive :D
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Offline Gortef

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I must say I noticed too that at one point, all turned upside down at the VBB :doubt:

I registered there because it seemed like fun, and I needed some help with my campaign :p
Then at one point people started arguing much more than usual and a swarm of trolls appeared. At first it was fun to read (in some occasions), but it simply got out of hand :(

Lack of support from :v and THQ might have been one reason, I suppose...

Anyway, sad to see her go... final words posted... *bows*

*silence*
Habeeb it...

 

Offline Darkage

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Now now, the world isn't doomed but it is indeed a pitty it is closeing....But maby it's time for me to get my firts BANN ever:p nah, i'll try to keep my posting history clean:D
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Offline Redfang

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So it has happened. It wouldn't be too sad, but FRED forum was good. And, now, not so many people find HLP at all. I'm not going to get me banned, just posting some links to HLP. ;) About time I joined to HLP, and this is already better than the VBB. But, THQ is... :headz: :snipe:
 
Edit: Indeed, VBB is slow now. At least it has more new posts and topic than usually. Except lots of them are about that closing.
 
Edit: :doh: that flood control. Can't post almost anything. 400 seconds.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2002, 06:40:55 am by 665 »

 

Offline Styxx

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As good a game as Freespace is, Volition no longer deserves any respect as a gaming house. They simply sold themselves, and gave up on the possibility of making real money for a small, simple, more secure path. If you don't get it, that's what cowards usually do, and that's how I see Volition's managers right now. They'll spiral to the bottom - it already started, their games for the PS2 didn't get close to the popularity they've expected, and they neglected the only market where they were sure to make a top of the line product. Call that a chain of stupid decisions or what?

Anyway, I hope they're reading this. I guess I'll even post it on the VBB before it's definately gone, just to see what happens.
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Offline wEvil

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Apparently volition was always the frostier side of Parallax, compared to..er...the other guys.

I dont know the corporate history anyway so..


But you're right abotu concentrating on daft games....but its syptomatic of the general social trends at the moment.   Out with sci-fi and anything relatively interesting and in with sports games or weird puzzle thingies and soap operas :(

But thats' just the way the managers want it run, its all cyclic.  Sooner or later the people with the cash will realise they arent making money anymore because there's no origionality and their games suck (Sci-fi IS origional, i dont care what anyone says)

It will make a comeback in a couple of years, I bet, depending on how many promising companies have to go under due to managerial short-sightedness.

I hate managers, I hate accountants and I hate money.  Rip the system.

 

Offline ZylonBane

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I wish one of the V guys would quit or something, so they could get out from under the Order of Silence THQ has apparently imposed. It's bloody weird not hearing from either of the Daves for so long. Heck, I'd almost pay money just to find out what happened to the once-promising Red Faction.
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Offline Stunaep

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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor

THEY have good stuff. I mean, look at what Maxis has done with The Sims. FIVE expansion packs, and the game is still going for $50! The moral is, find something good and stick with it.

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SIMS:headz: SIMS:headz: SIMS:headz: SIMS:headz:

Now, that I`ve calmed down, I`ll just say that closing down the VBB was, well, the best thing to do, but tjis still makes me feel sad,cuz now, there`s one community less in the Freespace world... and thats bad:(
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Offline Stunaep

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Originally posted by Warlock
Yup

The age of the Space Sim is gone....THQ will dawn the age of Hotwheels and Brittney Spears PC games!
:wtf: :eek2:
ACK!


Hey THQ!  :snipe:  

:headz:

:mad2:


throwing computer out of the window
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Offline Razor

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Yes it is one less! Setekh, if you are reading this, if you close HLP one day..... :drevil:

You better don't!

Well as you guys here say: HLP, THE LAST BEST HOPE FOR FREESPACE

 

Offline CP5670

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I for one will NEVER own another  opr THQ product. I'll do what I can to inform others as to the shotty support, Hell even Summoner and RF got nothing RIGHT off the bat.

"Here have one patch and STFU"

This is NOT how you run a PC software company. Someone pointed out the Sims about this. That game is NOT all that, yet they kept making expansions,...FIVE now,..Full game is STILL $50, each add on STILL $30. Why ? Before the game is boring they tos out new add on packs. The site supports the game, they release a few freebie add ons here and there to keep ppl interested.


You summed up my thoughts perfectly there. Volition's FS1 support was actually quite good, but ever since the release of FS2's first (and only) patch, everything went downhill. Maybe there was change in their internal structure or something, but whatever the case, the product support beecame worse than any other corporation I have seen out there. A bad developer (or rather, a good developer but a bad supporter) is now teamed up with a bad publisher, making the situation even worse. As it stands now, I am of course not going to buy anything from them either (although "Britney Spears Dance" or whatever isn't exactly worth buying anyway :p); I really have no respect left for either company anymore, nor do they deserve it. As you said, the created a legacy, but they destroyed that legacy. Although it doesn't say anywhere in the official license agreement that they have to support it, when just about every company does a better job than this, "the bar gets raised," as the saying goes.

It would be really good if one of the popular magazines or websites posts an article about this as an example of what can happen to an exceptional game with such poor support. ;)
« Last Edit: April 10, 2002, 01:09:34 pm by 296 »

 

Offline Redfang

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I just hope that HLP will not have serious impact when VBB goes down. And I hope HLP will not be shut down, either. That would be too bad... :headz: :snipe:

 

Offline CP5670

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I think HLP will be up for some time, as it is run by fans of the game rather than the company, and they do their work because they like the game(s) rather than to get money. ;)

 

Offline an0n

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Originally posted by CP5670
I think HLP will be up for some time, as it is run by fans of the game rather than the company, and they do their work because they like the game(s) rather than to get money. ;)

No, they do it so that they can feel superior and special.

........errr.........:D.
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Offline CP5670

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No, they do it so that they can feel superior and special.


Well, that too. :D Who doesn't like to have big forum "avatars" to feel like kings? :D

 

Offline TheVirtu

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*sits in his Herc II and watches the Sathanas fleet jump to the Volition Inc System*

Two days left! Man this would make a funny movie.
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Offline an0n

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NOOOOOOO!!!! Someone torp'd the Cain!
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Offline Redfang

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Originally posted by CP5670
I think HLP will be up for some time, as it is run by fans of the game rather than the company, and they do their work because they like the game(s) rather than to get money. ;)

 
:nod: Good. :nod:
 
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Originally posted by TheVirtu
*sits in his Herc II and watches the Sathanas fleet jump to the Volition Inc System*

Two days left! Man this would make a funny movie.

 
:lol: :headz:

 

Offline Dr.Zer0

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Originally posted by TheVirtu
*sits in his Herc II and watches the Sathanas fleet jump to the Volition Inc System*

Two days left! Man this would make a funny movie.


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