[Fury]

I couldn't find existing list anywhere, so I'd like people to post here what mistakes Volition did in their tabling that mediavps cannot fix as it would alter gameplay balance.

Few examples:
- GTB Artemis has no engine overclock
- GTB Artemis D.H. is statistically almost identical to GTB Artemis, no speed or maneuverability difference like tech description says.

Thanks in advance.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Not sure if this is an example you want, but here I go:

- The GTSG Mjolnir has shield points, but no shield mesh. It also has no weapons to ward off attacking small craft, as its tech description implies otherwise.

[Nuke]

of course theres the colossus, which didnt have all the missile launchers that the cutscene claimed it does.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

There's the Lucifer, which I believe is supposed to have three flux cannons, not two, as per the FS1 tech description...

[Wanderer]

Mentu and its beam cannons

[Macfie]

The Myrmidon and it's ability to carry the Helios and not the Harpoon.

[The E]

Not a tbl error per se, but weird nonetheless:

Code: [Select]

$Name:                          SB Nahema
...
$Max Velocity:          19.0, 19.0, 90.0
...
$Max Oclk Speed:        72.0

Watch, as the AI gets hit with the nerfbat!

[Commander Zane]

Artemis doesn't overclock?

The Bakha's lack of overclock, and Helios on primaries.

[Droid803]

Faustus with harpoons/subachs/akhetons all on the same turret.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

TAG-C not player allowed but it's tech description and assignment in multiplayer mission loadouts says it should have been.  

[Fury]

Not a tbl error per se, but weird nonetheless:

Code: [Select]

$Name:                          SB Nahema
...
$Max Velocity:          19.0, 19.0, 90.0
...
$Max Oclk Speed:        72.0

Watch, as the AI gets hit with the nerfbat!

These kinds of subtle hard to spot errors I'm most interested about.

[Commander Zane]

There's differences between Retail loadout specs and Open.

Some examples are the Prometheus R on Retail being 4 Hull damage and 1 Shield damage, on Open however it says 7 : 3.
The Maxim on Retail, 8 : 1, on Open, 7 : 1.
Circe on Retail, 6 Shield damage, on Open, 11 Shield damage.

[The E]

Is that with or without mediavps? There's a known bug in the mediavps tables where those values you see on the weapon select screen have been altered for some reason. The in-game performance, however, is still the same.

[Dragon]

It's very simple to fix it, it's just a few numbers.
I thought that it was changed to better reflect the weapon preformance.
The difference between specs and preformance must have came from the preformance changing at some point of development and descriptions being not altered.

[The E]

Yeah, maybe, but the point is that that is something the mediavps shouldn't do.

[Thaeris]

Yes! The game should lie to and decieve us... 

Personally, if the MediaVPs post more accurate weapons data, I'm happy with that. Why should I have to crack open the tables themselves to get proper data on what I want/need to use?

[The E]

....

Because, unless someone can show us (us, in this case, being the FSU team) the relevant math to prove that the new values are more accurate, those things are just needless alterations of the retail data without added benefit.

[chief1983]

I'll admit, it'd be nice to see it proven that one set of data is more accurate than the other.

[Commander Zane]

Why not display the values based on base damage x armor / shield / subsystem factors?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

That's what CP5670 did in PI for the ships. It was good, but it took me a year to understand which value was what.