[Bobboau]

so, he closes gitmo only to move all the people there into a prison in illinois, how is this really 'change'? I mean I guess it's not in Cuba anymore, but I don't think this is what you all had in mind when you voted for him on that issue.

[iamzack]

Yup. Wish he'd stop pandering to morons and be as liberal as they think he is.

Plus, I mean, seriously? Every time he does something retarded that pisses me off, I just remind myself that it could be 100x worse... Bush Jr. Jr. and that lady with the obsession with Russia could be in his place.

[Bobboau]

it's hard to tell which pit of awful is deeper.

[Snail]

Until I read the full article I thought this was an overturned case from Bush's time (suicides re-investigated and classified as murders). Looks like things haven't changed as much as I thought.

[High Max]

Things don't change overnight. That's life. Another part of life is to not get your hopes up because it usually doesn't work out the way one wants it to. Plus, maybe the culture is what needs some changing, not just changing authorities who have so-called power. People need to define 'change' and change isn't always good, but it can be depending on what is changed.

[Scotty]

You know what?  That post made perfect sense up to the point you added to the end of it.

Just like with posts, not all changes are good, either.

[High Max]

It makes even more sense now. My words are correct. I fail to see your logic.

Change isn't always good, but it can be. How can that not make sense?

[Scotty]

Judging by the edit timestamp, that's not what it said when I posted.

[Mongoose]

His title rings as true as ever.

[High Max]

I must have changed it again not knowing you were posting at the same time It is better to edit than double post or post too much, I feel.

Edit: I think I went back and fixed a grammar or spelling error as you were writing your post. Edited it to fix grammar perhaps after adding that sentence.

[Scotty]

If you would be kind enough to note that with the use of :

"EDIT:  [edit goes here]"

There would be much less confusion, and you could stop pretending that you don't actually add an entire sentence every time you edit the post.

[Kosh]

In spite of this limitation Obama has done a fair amount to move us back in the right direction, including moving to shut down Gitmo.

Ok, other than making moves to shut down Gitmo, in your view what else has he done?

[General Battuta]

The Obameter tracks Obama's campaign promises.

[High Max]

I wonder if he is the first president to have a meter.

[Kosh]

The Obameter tracks Obama's campaign promises.

Just to pick one of the promises kept......

On the campaign trail, President Barack Obama promised to clean up the credit card industry by establishing a consumers bill of rights. No more "any time, any reason" rate increases, no more confusing contracts, he said.

Then why did credit card rates and fees go through the roof at the end of last year?

[Nuke]

there is probably enough of a historical record to make every president their own meter.

The Obameter tracks Obama's campaign promises.

Just to pick one of the promises kept......

On the campaign trail, President Barack Obama promised to clean up the credit card industry by establishing a consumers bill of rights. No more "any time, any reason" rate increases, no more confusing contracts, he said.

Then why did credit card rates and fees go through the roof at the end of last year?

they had to make up losses caused by obama's interference.

[Kosh]

Well, but according to that website he passed the bill in may last year which supposedly put an end to that kind of "anytime" rate increase, but according to the article I just read (which was in November of last year), that is exactly what the banks have done (pull off a massive "anytime" rate increase).

[Dilmah G]

I wonder if he is the first president to have a meter.

Bushmeter doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

[Rian]

Well, but according to that website he passed the bill in may last year which supposedly put an end to that kind of "anytime" rate increase, but according to the article I just read (which was in November of last year), that is exactly what the banks have done (pull off a massive "anytime" rate increase).

Because the bill hadn’t taken effect yet.

According to this article, which is one of the ones linked on the Obameter site, “the effective date is nine months after enactment.”

[Nuke]

if a law gets passed that prevents corporations from screwing over the population, the companies will always find new loopholes to exploit. they will not like the new losses and will find a way to gain back what was lost. a good example would be overtime. companies were exploiting employees making them work longer than sane hours, so the polies said lets have overtime, if theyre gonna work em too hard, they should get more money for it. companies didnt like this so then they stopped letting their employees work more than 40 hours a week and just hired more people. at which point it became difficult for employees to get their full 40 hours. it also caused a bunch of bizarre scheduling so that people would have to come in for a couple hours on a usually off (and wasting time/money in commuting to work), making it rather annoying/inefficient for employees. but its ok, since it made the company more money.