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Would you like te see these modifications in the MediaVPs?

Yes! I can't believe they changed!
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Author Topic: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Updated again! Mekhu split off!  (Read 22200 times)

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Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Bobbau's right.
I should also mention stars are the same way, blue stars are hotter than red stars.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
we are not talking physics here, we are talking aesthetics and to a lesser degree psychology.

I am perfectly aware of the physics behind temperature and wavelength, but Bobbau is nonetheless correct.

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
I think we can go either route, to be honest I never liked this color shift, neither retail nor mediavps one.
Mediavps Mekhu was an improvement, as it was always light blue.

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
I have an extremely difficult time imagining a laser/flame that is turning blue because it is losing energy. There's something screaming at the back of my head saying "THAT'S WRONG".

Now, if it faded to black, then I could agree with you, but a color shift to blue doesn't strike me as losing energy, at all, and it shouldn't to anyone that's educated in the physics behind temperature and wavelength.

Mediavps Mekhu was an improvement, as it was always light blue.

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Mediavps Mekhu was an improvement, as it was always light blue.
AFAIK, The Mekhu shifted to red in Mediavps as well.

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
No, the MVPs mehku shifted from blue to teal (or the reverse)
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
But the very center of fire is in fact blue, and the hottest point of the flame.

unfortunately it's wrapped in the red/yellow part so what you see is not blue, but white.


I have an extremely difficult time imagining a laser/flame that is turning blue because it is losing energy. There's something screaming at the back of my head saying "THAT'S WRONG".

Now, if it faded to black, then I could agree with you, but a color shift to blue doesn't strike me as losing energy, at all, and it shouldn't to anyone that's educated in the physics behind temperature and wavelength.

unfortunately its shifting from dark blue to bright red, if it was a blueish white that shifted to a dark red, you might be able to justify it, but that would be a radically changed weapon effect, though I guess we are dealing with that already.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Bobbau's right.
I should also mention stars are the same way

The stars are right? The great old ones awake?

*hides*

 

Offline Tarvis

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
No, the MVPs mehku shifted from blue to teal (or the reverse)
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$Name: @Mekhu HL-7
+nocreate
@Laser Bitmap: Mekhu_Bitmap
@Laser Glow: Mekhu_Glow
@Laser Color: 0, 30, 220
@Laser Color2: 220, 30, 0
$Impact Explosion: Mekhu_Impact
$Impact Explosion Radius: 2
$Decal:
+Texture: Tiny_decal
+Radius: 0.1

Not in the mediavps version I have. Either way it's a matter of preference. Perhaps it was different in an older version.

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Damn it, did someone ninja-change it already? :|
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
If you absolutely must have a technobabble explanation... perhaps the blue part is just "more coherent", so the red part dissipates leaving the purer blue part to reach maximum range?

Then again, subluminal lasers...

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
It's not about having a technoblabble explanation. It's about making sense, and looking good.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
It's not about having a technoblabble explanation. It's about making sense, and looking good.

Er... I guess what I meant was, "if you absolutely must try to make sense out of it"

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
it's not about making sense it's about looking cool.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Looking cool and making sense is better than looking cool and not making sense. I think blue lasers are pretty cool.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
You know what, someone should start an initiative. It should be called the "CUSTOMIZE YOUR MEDIAVP INSTALLATION IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING" initiative.


Get it out of your heads that what goes into the MediaVPs is semi-canon or semi-sub official or whatever. Don't like something, you can easily overwrite it for your own personal use.

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
You know what, someone should start an initiative. It should be called the "CUSTOMIZE YOUR MEDIAVP INSTALLATION IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING" initiative.


Get it out of your heads that what goes into the MediaVPs is semi-canon or semi-sub official or whatever. Don't like something, you can easily overwrite it for your own personal use.

That I already do.
Still, it ticks me off as I know how often good stuff gets replaced and never resurfaces. (I'M LOOKING AT YOU, OLD 3-D SHOCKWAVES, OR RATHER, I'M NOT SINCE THEY'RE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND ANYMORE)
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
The what? 3D is still 3D and still the same POF and image files, so I don't understand.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=56424.msg1145330#msg1145330

This.
It doesn't seem like the 2d/3d shockwave for the masses one is the correct shockwave effect, at least not to that screenshot.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2010, 05:23:16 pm by Droid803 »
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
But they're awful!  :shaking: