[Flaser]

After several years of development, Russia's (...and India's) answer to the F-22 is finally unveiled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPHzCqSJ5xY

[Dilmah G]

Wow.

It looks a bit like the SR-71 meets the F-22. Anywhere we can get specs on this baby?

[The E]

It does look awesome.

I still wish they'd developed the Berkut into a production model (because it looks that much more Badass), but this one's cool too. Reminds me a lot of the YF-23.

[headdie]

i think it looks a little better than the f-22 (though that might be because i am bored of looking at the same "cutting edge" fighter for the last 10 years or so

Wikipedia has some estimated dimensions here

[ShadowGorrath]

This is damn awesome 

[Ghostavo]

I still wish they'd developed the Berkut into a production model (because it looks that much more Badass)

[Kosh]

The Berkut was a more original design.

[Dilmah G]

If this has a decent Air to Air arsenal available to it, without compromising stealth, the JSF could be in some serious trouble.
Or rather, the JSF would be in even more serious trouble. If there's a major conflict between developed nations in the next five to twenty years, most of the West's Air Power is going to be largely non-stealth at this rate.

[ShadowGorrath]

If this has a decent Air to Air arsenal available to it, without compromising stealth, the JSF could be in some serious trouble.
Or rather, the JSF would be in even more serious trouble. If there's a major conflict between developed nations in the next five to twenty years, most of the West's Air Power is going to be largely non-stealth at this rate.

You're thinking too small. The PAK FA is meant to challenge the Raptor, not just the JSF.

[Nuke]

wikipedia says it may have 2 30mm guns

[Dilmah G]

If this has a decent Air to Air arsenal available to it, without compromising stealth, the JSF could be in some serious trouble.
Or rather, the JSF would be in even more serious trouble. If there's a major conflict between developed nations in the next five to twenty years, most of the West's Air Power is going to be largely non-stealth at this rate.

You're thinking too small. The PAK FA is meant to challenge the Raptor, not just the JSF.

And you're forgetting there's less than 200 of them.

The JSF, to my knowledge, is meant to be the real working end, a bit like the Hurricane to the Spitfire during the BoB. I mean, it's replacing basically everything.

[ShadowGorrath]

If this has a decent Air to Air arsenal available to it, without compromising stealth, the JSF could be in some serious trouble.
Or rather, the JSF would be in even more serious trouble. If there's a major conflict between developed nations in the next five to twenty years, most of the West's Air Power is going to be largely non-stealth at this rate.

You're thinking too small. The PAK FA is meant to challenge the Raptor, not just the JSF.

And you're forgetting there's less than 200 of them.

The JSF, to my knowledge, is meant to be the real working end, a bit like the Hurricane to the Spitfire during the BoB. I mean, it's replacing basically everything.

And you're forgetting that there are only 13 of F-35s built, 15 ordered.  Unless my source, the mighty Wiki, is wrong.

Besides, unless I'm wrong, the F-35 was basically meant to be sold to other nations, while the Americans kept the F-22.

[Dilmah G]

The JSF program was designed to replace the U.S. military's F-16, A-10, F/A-18 (excluding newer E/F "Super Hornet" variants) and AV-8B tactical fighter aircraft.

As far as I know, this is still applying to the US as well.

[BengalTiger]

The Berkut was a more original design.

The Berkut was pretty much looks like the X-29:



only less experimental, and more military, and being a 2 engine plane- much larger.

If this has a decent Air to Air arsenal available to it, without compromising stealth, the JSF could be in some serious trouble.
Or rather, the JSF would be in even more serious trouble. If there's a major conflict between developed nations in the next five to twenty years, most of the West's Air Power is going to be largely non-stealth at this rate.

You're thinking too small. The PAK FA is meant to challenge the Raptor, not just the JSF.

And you're forgetting there's less than 200 of them.

The JSF, to my knowledge, is meant to be the real working end, a bit like the Hurricane to the Spitfire during the BoB. I mean, it's replacing basically everything.

And you're forgetting that there are only 13 of F-35s built, 15 ordered.  Unless my source, the mighty Wiki, is wrong.

Besides, unless I'm wrong, the F-35 was basically meant to be sold to other nations, while the Americans kept the F-22.

The Russians plan to have some 150-200 T-50's, India plans on 200 more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22fN4fVoFdY

The US have 145 F-22's, with a total of 187 planned.

The F-35 is right now in Low rate initial production, and there are tons planned:
U.S. Air Force: 1,763 aircraft
U.S. Marine Corps: 480 aircraft
U.K. Royal Navy: 60 aircraft
U.S. Navy: 480 aircraft

My source is more mighty than wiki: http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/uswpns/air/fighter/f35.html

[Kosh]

The US have 145 F-22's, with a total of 187 planned.

I thought the program was canned last year?

The Berkut was pretty much looks like the X-29:

Because they still use the same concepts, so of course they are going to be similair. But there aren't any operation FSW aircraft, which would make the Berkut unique if it went into production.

Besides, unless I'm wrong, the F-35 was basically meant to be sold to other nations, while the Americans kept the F-22.

The F-22 was so insanely expensive no one could really afford them them anyway. It was part of a new program called the "budget buster".

[Dilmah G]

I think Obama capped F-22 production at 187, since they'd already paid for them, I think.

[BengalTiger]

The F-22 was so insanely expensive no one could really afford them them anyway. It was part of a new program called the "budget buster".

Well it is a fact that the Raptor costs 40% more than the Su T-50... (about $140 M for an F-22 vs about $100 M for a Sukhoi).

Another thing related to the topic:
Are these planes the last manned fighters? Will they be replaced by UCAV's, or will human pilots still be required when these airplanes end their service?

[headdie]

The F-22 was so insanely expensive no one could really afford them them anyway. It was part of a new program called the "budget buster".

Well it is a fact that the Raptor costs 40% more than the Su T-50... (about $140 M for an F-22 vs about $100 M for a Sukhoi).

Another thing related to the topic:
Are these planes the last manned fighters? Will they be replaced by UCAV's, or will human pilots still be required when these airplanes end their service?

how do we stand on transmission lag with remote operated vehicles?

[Mongoose]

Maybe what we should really be asking is if the Russian military budget allows for building more than a handful of these.

[StarSlayer]

Maybe what we should really be asking is if the Russian military budget allows for building more than a handful of these.

That or whether it can actually compete with a Raptor or JSF for that matter.  Just because it looks prettier doesn't mean she's as good or better in the sack.