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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Starcraft 2 Beta is now Live
does anyone remember how to get to the secret mission in brood war. i just played through it and i didnt get it. i cant remember what i was supposed to do to get to it.

It's one of the Zerg missions IIRC. (Maybe? Could be Protoss.)

You have to get to a Stasis Cell containing the Dark Templar Matriarch and blow it up within a set time limit. I seem to remember it being on Char or a similar volcanic planet and using Guardians to cross a lava-sea and get in well under the time limit. The ground route was protected by Terran encampments with bunkers and siege tanks in tandem and those are slow propositions.
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Brood War, Zerg missions, chapter 9 is the mission right before it.  You have to finish it with five minutes left on the clock.

 

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ok, i think i know the one. il see if i cant unlock it.
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Without getting into specifics, it appears that the overarching plot for the trilogy is going to be more
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Warcraft
than I'd like, which is a shame.
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Offline General Battuta

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I'm a ways into 'craft 2 and...

...well, this isn't the Starcraft sequel I'd dreamed of. It's a nice game, made with love, given some great fan service trappings (woo RPG-esque ship). But for all the lovingly crafted missions, well, we've done this all before, and often better.

It feels like a Warcraft 3 mod with Warcraft 3 writing. I cringe every time Zeratul speaks, because he is clearly written like a Warcraft character, and his new actor is terrible.

Starcraft was originally basically a recolored Warcraft II. Game journalists ridiculed it as 'Warcraft in space'. It was remade and we got Starcraft.

I wish someone had ridiculed Starcraft II and gotten it remade, but I think a lot of the fundamental talent and drive to innovate that made original Starcraft so good is gone.

Every time a character opens his or her mouth and speaks a tired piece of stock Blizzard dialogue it just reminds me how unlike the fresh, concise, driven original Starcraft this story is. Do I defile this sacred place with my mere presence? How many times have we heard that line before?

I so badly wanted this to not be Warcraft III in space, but...the writing. The writing! Huuurgh. Even the actors aren't up to original par (though Tricia Helfer does try and isn't awful as Kerrigan, the new Zeratul is just abominable.) As soon as the Jamaican arrived I knew we were in trouble. Even the extra unit dialogue isn't as funny (except the Thor, which is awesome.)

On the up side there's nice mission variety and I like the unlock system for campaign.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2010, 10:31:58 pm by General Battuta »

 

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Well that's to bad, I'm a Total Annihilation man myself but I was working myself up to being jazzed for this.
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Aww man, that sucks. Zeratul was always one of my favorite characters. They lost my money.
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Their digital download system is in serious need of work. Normally, you download a game from a company, it's a couple hours at worst. Usually, a lot less.

My SC2 download is currently sitting at eleven hours.
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Their digital download system is in serious need of work. Normally, you download a game from a company, it's a couple hours at worst. Usually, a lot less.

My SC2 download is currently sitting at eleven hours.
Lucky bastard; if I were to download it, it'd take me somewhere around 4~ days average. :(
« Last Edit: July 29, 2010, 12:12:37 am by Hades »
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Their digital download system is in serious need of work. Normally, you download a game from a company, it's a couple hours at worst. Usually, a lot less.

My SC2 download is currently sitting at eleven hours.

Doesn't Blizzard use a BitTorrent system for these sorts of things.  The huge demand should make the process go quicker... that's weird. Are all of your ports closed up for BitTorrent or is your ISP traffic sharping torrent packets?
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Doesn't Blizzard use a BitTorrent system for these sorts of things.  The huge demand should make the process go quicker... that's weird. Are all of your ports closed up for BitTorrent or is your ISP traffic sharping torrent packets?

Neither. If this were being run through Vuze it would have been done hours ago.
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 :wtf: I got it done on opening day in a very brief span of time. I imagine demand was near peak.

Did you disable peer-to-peer networking in some kind of download settings thing on the Blizzard downloader?

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Did you disable peer-to-peer networking in some kind of download settings thing on the Blizzard downloader?

Unless it came that way, no.

EDIT: It did not. Currently down to five hours, or sometimes six, depending on when I glance at it. 40% complete.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2010, 12:43:31 am by NGTM-1R »
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Did you disable peer-to-peer networking in some kind of download settings thing on the Blizzard downloader?

Unless it came that way, no.

EDIT: It did not. Currently down to five hours, or sometimes six, depending on when I glance at it. 40% complete.
sounds like same issue I saw when updating WoW for my brother when he got it.
**** was so long to patch using it that it was faster to find the patches on filefront.
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Been playing SC2 a few days now. It's kinda meh. :(

 

Offline General Battuta

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Been playing SC2 a few days now. It's kinda meh. :(

Concur.

 

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That's funny...I know a long-time SC fan who's quite literally drooling over every moment of it so far. :p

 

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That's funny...I know a long-time SC fan who's quite literally drooling over every moment of it so far. :p

If people want to like it they'll work really hard to like it, but in terms of story and character writing it's nowhere near the bar the original set. Gameplay is...fine, I guess. Plays like 2001's best RTS.

  

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Story is definitely going the cliché route where every "twist" is so predictable. Characters are really bland, even emotionless. Gameplay is very old, sure SC2 has learned few new tricks since 1998, and I realize it was a design decision to keep it that way, but all this combined only gives the "meh" impression for me.

So basically SC2 is SC1 with in-game cutscenes instead of rendered cutscenes and prettier graphics. It was expected, but I also expected it to make an impact on some level. That didn't happen.

 

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Thats to bad, I really thought SC2's gameplay looked dated from the get go, but was hoping the story bit would make it worth while.  Guess I'll be placing my hopes on Shogun II then

mmmm Shogun
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