[Zazicle]

I'm not flaming people and I'm not even suggesting the death of all the religious people seriously, I'm just making the point that religion is the cause of everything wrong in the world.

[Fineus]

I know, my last post was just to ensure everyone stayed cool - not against you at all

[Zeronet]

Religion could also be a cause for everything thats right, morals etc, laws.

[Zazicle]

That's not religion, that's just civilisation. Just think - wars in Ireland, the middle east, terrorist attacks on the US - all caused by religion.

[Fineus]

True, but now that we have those morals - is it really right to continue to force religion upon those who may not wish to accept it? This isn't aimed at any one religion but it seems they all have a social code... why not enforce that code but not the story behind it? It'd still benefit humanity and remove the problem of religious conflict.

[Corsair]

Originally posted by Zeronet
Religion could also be a cause for everything thats right, morals etc, laws.

You're right and so is Zazicle. It can be looked at either way, and no matter which way you look at it it's true. Thanks to religion we have laws and stuff but because of it people become too fervent and try to convert everyone else to their religion (power hungry people starting wars).

Originally posted by Thunder
I know, my last post was just to ensure everyone stayed cool - not against you at all

You sure you're not just spamming in order to reach 5k posts?

[Fineus]

What? eh? oh! would you look at that

C'mon, I could give myself 50K if I felt the need... but I don't need to compensate

[Zazicle]

Exactly, that's one of the most annoying things. Why do schools stil have 'Religious Education/Studies'? It's a load of rubbish. And when why on earth do some people still believe in the Creation? A school in england was recently in the news for teaching the Creation instead of Darwin's evolution/natural selection theories.

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Zazicle
Exactly, that's one of the most annoying things. Why do schools stil have 'Religious Education/Studies'? It's a load of rubbish. And when why on earth do some people still believe in the Creation? A school in england was recently in the news for teaching the Creation instead of Darwin's evolution/natural selection theories.

Due to the infinite complexity of what God actually did during creation, it was made so people during those times could understand, the bible should not be taken literally, it was wrote in a understandable form, like a parable.

Also about Religion dieing out, huh? Religion slowly dissipating out of the world? Whats that all about.

[an0n]

I still think the Bible is a sci-fi novel.

However my thoughts on heaven and hell recently reached an epiphany. What if life is like levels? Heaven in the begginer level where leading a good life is easy, and once completed you progress to a harder level, this one. Now if you are self-survivalist enough in this life you go on to a harder level, Hell. And so on and so forth. I like this particular idea as it supports my belief that it is our duty as humans to be as evil as possible.

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by an0n
I still think the Bible is a sci-fi novel.

However my thoughts on heaven and hell recently reached an epiphany. What if life is like levels? Heaven in the begginer level where leading a good life is easy, and once completed you progress to a harder level, this one. Now if you are self-survivalist enough in this life you go on to a harder level, Hell. And so on and so forth. I like this particular idea as it supports my belief that it is our duty as humans to be as evil as possible.

It also supports my belief that certain ppl should be locked up, forever.

[an0n]

Harsh......but fair.

[CODEDOG ND]

Anybody ever read anything by L. Ron Hubbard?  I'm sorry but his theories are about as reliable as a 5 year olds.

"F*ck L. Ron Hubbard and all of his Clones." - TOoL

[Bobboau]

Scientoligy is the second largest cult in exsistance

I think if an after life exsists, it is what ever you want it to be like, this way all the gospley freaks go to the same place, all the sadistic basturds go to the same place, all the power hungery  zelots, and normal people, so you spend all eternity with people just like you, wether this is a good thing or not depends on what type of person you are

so these people that are blowing them selves up are going to the same place the crusaders and all the other self serving religus fanatics went to, and they will fight for there god for the rest of time. wich to them is heaven

[JC Denton]

Okay, now if someone would take a very literal look at Revelation, would you kindly estimate how long we have until the end comes?  I've only dabbled in interpreting it, but it's sounding far too much like what's going on in the world now.  One of my friends who is into mythology said that the Mayans predicted all those years ago that the end would come somewhere around 2013.  And another buddy noted that some scholars did a few random calculations, and they estimated around 2011 until "the end."

My point is, maybe there's something in such religious texts like the bible or koran and such that we SHOULD be a little wary of what's going on right now.  Who knows if any of it should come true or not?  The fact that everything's seemingly getting knotted right now has me suspicious.

I don't pretend to know what happens when a person dies, but I most certainly know I don't want to be swimming in a sea of burning sulfur and lava for eternity (which is a very very very very very long time).  Or whatever place where absolute evil reigns supreme, and I'm to endure infinite torture in infinite combinations.

[Stryke 9]

God is the deadbeat dad of the Universe- assuming it existed, it's not taking a hell of a lot of interest in what we do- after all, who's had a word with the Almighty lately?

Yeah, get past the "Ooh! Blasphemy!" bit and dig this: God's a name people pin on every time they don't have a good excuse to kill someone. God wasn't just on our side in WWII- there's a reason the Nazis had an Iron Cross and the swatsika looks like another one. The Israelis got their own God now, saying they have a right to a chunk of other peoples' land because they're God's personal favorites, and screw anyone who gets in the way; and the Palestinian god is down with bombing nd killing and anything else they want. Screw God in terms of religious denomination- almost no difference there. God is in politics, as now, as always, as will be, in the name of the Midaeval Catholic Church, Operation Infinite Justice, and Jihad, amen.

Now flame away, 'cause I warned you about getting me started on politics and you are mine, play or flame. Meet the wrath of the ex-political junkie.

[CP5670]

Religion is the cause of pretty much every problem in the world. If everyone who believed in god suddenly ceased to exist (I'm not suggesting this), the world would be a much better place.

I quite agree here. That would essentially be the whole world though, so it wouldn't really get us anywhere, but the religion concept will very slowly and subtly fade away over time through the generations anyway. Looking at the sociological trends, it will probably mostly dissappear in another millennium or so. (I can give more details here but I'd bore you all to death ) The die-hard fanatics will of course remain, but they will not be able to economically and technologically compete with the rest of the world, and so can be considered inconsequential and effectively dead for all practical purposes compared to the rest of humanity.

Religion is simply a by-product from the early formation of human civilization; as I have stated many times here, its two purposes were to provide a system of government, and to account for that which science could not explain. Religion was definitely necessary at the beginning because it provided a basis for people to work together for a common goal (thus forming civilizations) and brought a sense of order to humanity. However, it has long outlived its purposes at this point; the same tasks are now taken up by much more advanced and flexible systems. (human governments and rapid scientific progress)

so these people that are blowing them selves up are going to the same place the crusaders and all the other self serving religus fanatics went to, and they will fight for there god for the rest of time. wich to them is heaven

Yeah, it doesn't really make any sense for all religions to be correct, as most of them contradict each other, so in order to advance together as a true civilization, humans have to follow a path which everyone can accept, and in my opinion, the only one there is science itself. This pinnacle of civilization can never be achieved by the current humans (due to our diversity), but I think that there is one midpoint somewhere between anarchism and communism that will be the best course for humanity for the current political era.

Man, I just read over that again and it seems a bit disorganized. I tend to ramble a bit on my ideas whenever this subject comes up.

[delta_7890]

*agrees with Stryke and CP.  Is frightened and disturbed by Anon...nothing new there.  *

[Bobboau]

"...place where absolute evil reigns supreme, and I'm to endure infinite torture in infinite combinations."

"Now flame away, 'cause I warned you about getting me started on politics and you are mine, play or flame. Meet the wrath of the ex-political junkie."
totaly agree with you

"as most of them contradict each other"
and themselves

well most religons say the end will come when nobody beleves in them anymore, so
well untill I see some whore riding on the back of a seven headed beast coming out of Babalon I'll just keep on modding

this era will last another 26 years, becase Nostradamis said so

[Slasher]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Meet the wrath of the ex-political junkie.

No......NO.....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This is an interesting topic, to say the least.  Continue your discussion while I experiment with HLP's smilies.

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[edit]I still think that headz smiley is gross. Time for the sickly sunglasses guy! [/edit]

It's like being a newbie all over again!  Flame away! %D

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