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Offline Kamikaze

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on: April 14, 2002, 03:42:06 am
I just finished watching A.I. - for all of you non-movie people a story about a not-quite human robot boy and his adventures. Anyways if you haven't seen it there may be spoilers - so at your own risk:)

Anyways, I wanted to know what you guys thought of the movie...
My impressions at the end were really sad movie, and shows just how much humans can be hateful/dumb. The ending seemed just a tad cheesy but I can accept that:p

So....
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Reply #1 on: April 14, 2002, 03:43:13 am
Damn, that robo-hooker was hot!  :D

I only saw pictures. ;)
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Reply #2 on: April 14, 2002, 03:47:35 am
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Damn, that robo-hooker was hot!  :D

:wtf:
I Hope you don't mean Gigolo Joe... :D

BTW: Watch the movie, it's great stuff :nod:
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Reply #3 on: April 14, 2002, 03:52:08 am
No no, the female one.  Can't remember the name of the actress that played her.....

Anyhow, on to more legitimate discussions.  I heard the ending was quite.... dissapointing.
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Reply #4 on: April 14, 2002, 03:55:56 am
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No no, the female one.  Can't remember the name of the actress that played her.....

Anyhow, on to more legitimate discussions.  I heard the ending was quite.... dissapointing.


Well, yeah some of the fems were nice :D

Well, probably depends on who you ask. Personally I thought it was a bit cheesy... and should have ended earlier (more dramatic that way...). But some will say the ending was just fine... it was sad yet happy to an extent. So, I think the ending could have been improved but was fine... :)

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Reply #5 on: April 14, 2002, 04:55:32 am
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No no, the female one.  Can't remember the name of the actress that played her.....


If you mean Gigolo Jane, then Ashley Scott.

I haven't seen the movie, but I checked the movie credits at IMDB, and this one seemed to fit. ;)
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Reply #6 on: April 14, 2002, 06:34:09 am
That film was so ****ing stupid. And it didn't help that all the subtitles near the end were blocked by camcorder messages (friggin part-time pirates, you'd think they'd have at least some pride in their work).

All of that 'can be re-opened only once' stuff was dumb. Although I found the fact that the twin towers survived the demise of the city quite amusing.

All in all, the ****test film ever made.
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Reply #7 on: April 14, 2002, 08:53:14 am
Yeah, I didn't see it but a bunch of my friends did and they told me it was awful. Just everything about it. I decided to skip it and watch something more worthwhile (like rent Airplane :D)
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Reply #8 on: April 14, 2002, 08:54:10 am
It was good until the end. I figure that Spielberg intended to make it a good film, but then it had to have a happy ending, so that Americans would enjoy it, thus making big bucks.

So, whats the Hollywood Deus Ex Machina.....

YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR: ALIENS!!!

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now, whats a good american movie without aliens.

The movie would have been good, if it ended at the place, where Osment was staring at the amusement park statue.

But noooo...  they had to throw in the happy ending and the :mad: :mad: :mad: aliens.
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Reply #9 on: April 14, 2002, 08:58:23 am
Was it aliens?

I thought it was super-evolved 'bots.

Either way...the whole film had a semi-ET feeling about it but at the same time the lighting styles were far, far colder.

You do feel deflated when you come out of the cinema after watching it and it does make you think if you're already in the mood to.  

Sadly, thinking seems to be a kind of taboo among most cinema-goers these days.
 

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Reply #10 on: April 14, 2002, 09:41:19 am
Super-evolved bots? I thought metaballs had invented the world.:D

And I actually quite liked the end. Mostly because I'd been panning the movie all the way through and got this great mental picture of Osment looking up at his reincarnated mother and saying "Who's the emotional crutch now, *****?"
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Reply #11 on: April 14, 2002, 11:55:28 am
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If you mean Gigolo Jane, then Ashley Scott.

I haven't seen the movie, but I checked the movie credits at IMDB, and this one seemed to fit. ;)
*snaps fingers* That's it!  I couldn't quite remember..... on the tip of my tongue, but couldn't figure it out.  Thank you. :nod:
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Reply #12 on: April 14, 2002, 10:35:16 pm
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Anyhow, on to more legitimate discussions.  I heard the ending was quite.... dissapointing.


Which one? The first ending was quite satisfying. The second ending was pretty good too. The third ending was pretty pathetic.

The movie suffers from something that a lot of Hollywood films suffer. Hollywood doesn't like to give us sad endings. Despite the movie leading to a proper and tragic ending, fairy dust is flung about, CG Artists are employed, and Pinnocchio becomes a real boy. Not really, but the little bastard gets his happy ending though he never should have.
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Reply #13 on: April 14, 2002, 10:49:26 pm
Its impossible to have a happy ending for a movie like AI.
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Reply #14 on: April 14, 2002, 10:55:45 pm
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Its impossible to have a happy ending for a movie like AI.


And yet, with the magic of CGI, superadvanced, superevolved robots come and save little Pinnocchio and give him a happy ending anyway. *FEH*

It would have been perfect, in every way, had the movie ended the first or second time. The third was just wrong.
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Reply #15 on: April 14, 2002, 11:26:33 pm
I just thought that the movie was sick beyond explanation...the ending, and the middle, and the begining...ill stay scared for life
  

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Reply #16 on: April 14, 2002, 11:44:41 pm
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Which one? The first ending was quite satisfying. The second ending was pretty good too. The third ending was pretty pathetic.


Remind me again, how a movie can have three endings?
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Reply #17 on: April 14, 2002, 11:53:06 pm
Pseudo endings. There were three places where it could have ended. The third was bad. I wanted it to end where he falls off the tower. :nod:
I hate hollywood precisely because of the "good ending" syndrome they have with americans. (not dissing Americans)

In Japan a bunch of movies end sadly..... both are strange communities...
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Reply #18 on: April 15, 2002, 12:26:22 am
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Pseudo endings. There were three places where it could have ended.


:blah:

That clears up a little, I suppose. ;)
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Reply #19 on: April 15, 2002, 12:32:25 am
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Remind me again, how a movie can have three endings?


There's two ways. First it can be like Clue!, which had four endings. ;)

The second is that it can end like AI. Boy reaches end of quest. Boy can't handle the truth! Boy dies.
WAIT! No, he miraculously survives. Lets see what happens. Oh here we go, the boy DIES...

Nope! Years later, miraculously, the boy is revived! Happy ending!

:mad:

The movie was crafted to lead to one of the two tragic points where it should have ended.
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