[MatthTheGeek]

You mean, Alpha 1 and the Colly could take down the Sath. The Colly alone don't stand a chance.

[-Norbert-]

Always interesting how an innocent joke can lead to a real, sometimes even heated, discussion.

[TopAce]

What's heated here?

[SpardaSon21]

You mean, Alpha 1 and the Colly could take down the Sath. The Colly alone don't stand a chance.

Behold the "Alpha 1 is God!" statement.

That's what's getting heated.

[Deka1184]

When calculating who would win in a Sath vs. Colly engagement, It is necessary to take firing arcs into account. If you view space around the Sathanas as a 6 sided cube, and place the colly on a random "side" of the Sathanas, the colossus will win 5/6 engagements.

[General Battuta]

Except for how the Sathanas can turn.

[Deka1184]

If the Sathanas can turn, then its only fair that the colossus can move (and not in a baseball bat sense)

[NGTM-1R]

If the Sathanas can turn, then its only fair that the colossus can move (and not in a baseball bat sense)

The Sathanas can turn faster than the Colossus can alter its relative bearing.

[High Max]

;-)

[General Battuta]

If the Sathanas can turn, then its only fair that the colossus can move (and not in a baseball bat sense)

The Sathanas can turn faster than the Colossus can move.

[Deka1184]

Alright, I got the point guys. I was just referencing the time in

Spoiler:

Beyond the Mirror

Where the Sath came in alongside the Colossus and couldn't turn in time.

And High Max.... Dude seriously just play the campaign. Clearly you want to see exploration into freaky shivan systems. You will get far more of that than you wish for down the road.

[High Max]

;-)

[Deka1184]

The mission is supposed to end when you hit 1%. For some reason the mission ending SEXPs only work for some people.

Spoiler:

The sequel would follow the rest of the GTVA as it struggles to seal off the Shivans. Of course, I'd bring in many subplots.

The Shivans got into Sol the same way they got into Ross128 in the first great war, by using the node stabilizing properties of the Lucifer. The Terran portal was in construction for a long time, the secrets unlocked by studying the Knossos just allowed them to finalize it.

[High Max]

;-)

[Vrets]

Spoiler:

The sequel would follow the rest of the GTVA as it struggles to seal off the Shivans. Of course, I'd bring in many subplots.

The Shivans got into Sol the same way they got into Ross128 in the first great war, by using the node stabilizing properties of the Lucifer. The Terran portal was in construction for a long time, the secrets unlocked by studying the Knossos just allowed them to finalize it.

Canonically, no ship is known to have node stabilizing properties; rather, Shivans are simply adept at utilizing unstable subspace nodes.

[High Max]

;-)

[Deka1184]

Canonically, no ship is known to have node stabilizing properties; rather, Shivans are simply adept at utilizing unstable subspace nodes.

I am following the play that the Lucifer in particular has node stabilizing capabilities, as indicated in the first great war when the Lucifer battlegroup comes from nowhere, and in a few points in Derelict.

[High Max]

;-)

[Deka1184]

Spoiler:

yes, one that was previously very unstable, but the shivans found and exploited just as they did in R128

[TrashMan]

The Sathanas can turn faster than the Colossus can move.

True...but the Collie will get at least one, if not 2-3 salvos before the Sath completes it's turn. That's an advantage.

And the Collie performs better on higher difficulties, since he uses more of his beams.
The re-fire rate of the Sath is what makes it dangerous.