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Which is the best modelling/rendering program?

3D Studio Max
9 (30%)
Lightwave 3D
7 (23.3%)
Maya
1 (3.3%)
Softimage XSI
2 (6.7%)
Animation Master
0 (0%)
Truespace
3 (10%)
Bryce
0 (0%)
Ray Dream Studio
1 (3.3%)
Other (Please Specify)
7 (23.3%)

Total Members Voted: 30

Voting closed: April 15, 2002, 01:45:38 am

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Offline Zeronet

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GMAX is good for modelling, its free too.
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Offline LtNarol

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LONG LIVE TRUESPACE!!!!! (not)

 

Offline KillMeNow

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dear god i hope those votes for truespace are both jokes
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OK, so I don't really care about any of that, I just want free stuff. Still.:D


Ray Dream is my native program, and the one I am fairly godly at. If you know the ins and outs, it can do stuff few other programs can, and considering how old it is its render effects are impressive (better than MAX or Carrara, in some respects). It's not flashy and doesn't contain a whole lot of goodies only available in it, but it's got the same advantages that, say, FreeSpace has over EOC- it uses what it has stunningly well, and I only rarely feel the need to use anything else. I've never actually learned to use a good portion of the program (the little documentation I have is terrible), and I still get better results than with MAX. That dual modeling system really takes the cake.

When I do use something else, I use 3DS Max 4, which is, I suppose, better in many respects. It takes a little getting used to, and some of the controls are awkward (really, really awkward, in the case of detailed nonprimitives modeling), but it has a very nice setup, a good interface (even if it won't bloody stay configured), and, best of all, is much, much faster on the modeling screen. Infinitely faster. As in, I can move the camera, and see the models as I move it. WOAH!:D
Actually, best of all is that its files are a fairly universal standard. I can port from anywhere, to anywhere, and it comes out more or less fine.

Lightwave- feh. I suppose I'm missing something, but its modeling prog is the most contrary piece of crap I have ever seen, including TrueSpace's. It makes an excellent renderer, and its volumetrics really are second to none, but I'd rather have my eyeballs gnawed out by small children than use the modeler.

In Carrara, I know I'm not missing anything. Nothing I've seen quite comes close to the lighting effects it has (lookit the pretty lens flare it gave me on my page for an example), and the abundance of very nice special tools (including a cusomizable particle generator, volumetric fog approaching Lightwave's, and a built-in terrain generator) make it fantastic for render work. Unfortunately, its modeler is simply pathetic. Which came as twice a dissapointment, considering that it's the descendant of Ray Dream, which is, in my opinion, roughly equal to 3DS MAX in modeling excellence, unless you really need beveling tools. Carrara has only one thing that it really stands out in, though. And that's procedural textures. Dozens of 'em, and all of them are delicious, provided you use them the right way.

 

Offline KillMeNow

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modeling in max is ao much harder than in lightwave - lightwave is user friendly
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Offline Stryke 9

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Oh- is THAT why I can't even get a frickin' CUBE??? Or a LINE, for that matter!:rolleyes:


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dear god i hope those votes for truespace are both jokes


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Lt.Narol said this crazy stuff:
LONG LIVE TRUESPACE!!!!! (not)


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Offline CP5670

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3DS Max seems to work the best for me, but I am still really a newbie to both modeling and rendering. I'll post more thoughts later in the future when I figure out how to do something useful in it. :D

BTW anyone remember the Polytron32 program for Descent 2? That was what I used to make my first models when I started off with modeling back in 1997; level/mission design tore me away from modeling for a few years though, so I am now trying to learn the stuff again. :D

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My point was that 3DsMAX is everywhere and XSI is harder to find (and even harder to find an uncorrupted, non-passworded, non-virused copy).


That's true; I have seen XSI in one or two places but it is not nearly as abundant as Max.
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Offline Nico

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modeling in max is ao much harder than in lightwave - lightwave is user friendly


no
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Offline Darkage

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dear god i hope those votes for truespace are both jokes


Don't get me started on that again, just like last night:D :p
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Offline Stryke 9

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I think it might depend on how you think about modeling... I can't make heads or tails of the LightWave modeler, most response I ever got was that the computer locked up. On the flip side, I think a 6-year-old could handle basic aspects of MAX.

 

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As a newbie modeler, that was my first reaction to the two programs as well... :D

 

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What Shrike said.
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As for the topic, it comes down to a matter of preference.  It's never 'which is best', but 'which do you like best'.  There is no such thing as a 'best' program, merely one that suits you the best.


What I said.
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The one I prefer to use. Period.


I prefer Lightwave and Truespace (yes Truespace. BITE ME.). Thus they are the BEST.

wEvil prefers Softimage XSI. For him, it is the best.

Untouchable prefers Max (gods help the poor bastard). For him it is the best.

Lightwave sucks if it doesn't work for you. Max sucks if it doesn't work for you. Softimage sucks if it doesn't work for you. That's all there is to it.
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Offline KillMeNow

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cube in light wave press X not x then drag it out done

lightwave rules hehehe......for me
ARGHHH

  

Offline Nico

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"bites Mikhael, and then wait for him to be pissed off and start a flamewar against him, but decides that this time he won't follow " :D
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Offline Nico

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cube in light wave press X not x then drag it out done

lightwave rules hehehe......for me


cube in max press any shortcut a cube is ( don't remember ) then drag it out done.
what's the difference?
oh, also, for those who don't like shortcuts ( some have short memories, like me ): right click, click primitive, then cube, drag it, done.
:ha:
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Offline Stryke 9

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Mik: ...And I'm sure all types of, I dunno, car are equal, and some only better as a matter of opinion as well.:rolleyes:

In other words: no. Some progs are decidedly better than others. There will always be dissent, those who prefer Buicks to Lamborghinis, but it doesn't just boil down to preference. Some progs suck. Some don't. We might not be able to decisively determine what is the BEST one from the handful of mostly uneducated, moderately experienced amateurs (many of whom own only one prog), and there might be no POINT to this exercise, but your premise is just silly.

 

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...but your premise is just silly.


My premise is the closest thing to objective reality you'll get in a highly subjective thread like 'which X is best?'.

The best modeller/rendering package is the one that does what you want it to do, when you want it to do it, the way you want it done. If it doesn't meet those criteria, it can hardly be said to be the 'best', can it? For me, that's Lightwave. For wEvil, that's XSI. For Untouchable its Max (sorry if I got anyone's preferences here mixed up).

You mention Lamborghini vs Buick? For what? Who in their right minds would have a Lamborghini for anything remotely to do with transportation? Sure, a Lamborghini might be prettier, but you really don't want to drive it to work every day (mileage sucks, engine is too loud, too damn expensive to maintain). In short, a Lamborghini doesn't do what I want it to do, the way I want it to do it, when I want to do it.
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Offline Nico

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Mike, first rule:
don't pay attention to what Stryke9 says.
I wonder how old is he. 14, 15 I'd say. Of course he'll give a ford for a diablo any day :p ( I would too, but to sell the car and get a cheaper one and the assurance that comes with it, plus some non car related extra along with it, but that's another matter).
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Offline Stryke 9

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Bah. I don't personally dig sports cars, they're midlife-crisis vessels. I was using an example so you'd get the point (BTW, I have a Buick, it drinks gasoline faster than a partyful of frat boys at 2 AM, has currently decayed to the point where it is only marginally functional as a car due to high maintenance, and is fairly quiet except when yet another engine part detaches. Speak of what you know, my friend)- I dig junk cars, which I suppose is even less 'mature'- as in "I'm cooler than you because I live in my mom's basement and it's got cable TV, and cable TV rawks!!" mature.:D

And yes. The best modeling package is the most functional. But how many progs have you sampled, before coming to your preference?