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Re: Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser
Yup, they're pretty big. This is a 6' 2" person next to the window:

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thats 3 decks worth of window 0.o

 
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Who puts giant windows and the attendant structural weakness on a warship?  Oh, right, the engineers of Star Wars who also forget to put railings over deep bottomless chasms. :P
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Two words:  Transparent Aluminum. :P
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Transparisteel to be precise (that's how it's called in SW).

 

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Possible good use for enormous gallery windows on a warship:

Granted, the openings on the Dreadnaught are much bigger, but it seems like it could work.  Shine a bunch of really bright lights outwards and enemy pilots wouldn't be able to visually identify which of the windows had active weapons and where they were pointing.  Anyway, you wouldn't have to model the turrets :)

 

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Re: Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser
At twice the length, more than twice the width and more than twice the height of a Nimitz class carrier, 14k people should be possible.
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Are the white spots just large windows?  Cause considering that thing is supposed to hold 14000 people, those windows would be massive.  But I don't think the ship at its spec'd size could ever  hold that many people anyway.
I think 14000 is a bit big a number for the crew size.
also, look at the other windows, those big ones look to be about 2 DECKS tall.
fancy observational views, or shield doors for big guns, i think the latter

 

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Wow, looking great!  This is really coming together nicely!  I'm not a big fan of the red paint, or maybe it's just the strange way it's striped.  Doesn't look quite right to me.  Other than that, this is a fabulous looking model.  Starting to look like it'll fit in with the rest of the Star Wars ships of the line quite nicely.

 

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I have to agree on the red, While I love the accent it gives, making it look very old republic, the actual placement of it kind of irks me, it's a bit too complex.  I'd rather see it more simplified, as seen on previous old republic ships like the Venator and others such as the corvette.
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Re: Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser
I think the windows are way too large - you can get pretty much the same effect using long clusters of smaller windows, which also help to sell the scale better. Otherwise, great job so far - I'm very curious to see how you end up tackling the blister guns. Is there a reason you went with a rounded engine block? Most versions of this ship I've seen have a big rectangular-section engine assembly.

14000 crew is no problem, space wise - after all, this thing has the volume of 8+ modern supercarriers, and that's 40000+ crew all told. It's just stupidly inefficient, since an Acclamator can run on ~1000 (but then again, the way these things are written up - they ARE stupidly inefficient).

 

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No automation in space, it seems. Everything has to be done manually so you have to lose 14,000 trained officers and crew when you lose a single ship.. luckily the galaxy is enormous so finding new people to train shouldn't be a problem.
Seriously, some of those numbers are ridiculous. What do they all do in that ship? Shovel coal?
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its actually 16000, katanas have only 2000 crewers, hence 14000 less >.>

geez, you guys just pull numbers out of the air some times, or posts  :doubt:

besides, crew intensive is a design flaw...its even admitted in EU that they are notoriously crew intensive

 
Re: Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser
Well, I think I'll keep them as windows. As for establishing scale, fractalsponge does have a point. I might consider breaking those windows up a bit since they make this ship seem too small for its size.

The blister guns are nonexistent, I'm afraid to say. The closest thing for this dreadnaught is blisters on the guns. Lets face it: any guns inside the blisters would have seriously limited firing arcs. Either that, or the entire bubble would somehow have to rotate into the hull to expose the guns. If that's the case it wouldn't respond to enemy fire very quickly since it would have to retract the bubbles before engaging the enemy.

I made the paint into stripes because I feel there are already too many horizontal lines in the ship already. By keeping the paint lines vertical I hope to integrate the different sections better. I'll look into whether it can be simplified. As for any other design choices on the ship (eg. the engine block), they're there because they look better than whatever the alternative was.

 

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I was thinking: why not ask for the collaboration of evillejedi from the warlords HW2 TC? he has quite a lot of star wars ships modelled in there already (including the dreadnaught, the eidolon and the ssd vengeance)...

 

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I was thinking: why not ask for the collaboration of evillejedi from the warlords HW2 TC? he has quite a lot of star wars ships modelled in there already (including the dreadnaught, the eidolon and the ssd vengeance)...
the detail on these ones are often a fair bit better than what I've seen in warlords.
plus its cool to see the re-imaginings of many of the offscreen ships such as the E-wing

 

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Yeah we're going for first-person levels of details here, and while the ships in in Warlords look great in HW2, I really don't think they're going to scale up appropriately to FSO.
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FoTG already uses (or used) some Warlords ships as placeholders.
Models for FSO need to me way more detailed, at least if you're going for high quality, like FoTG.

 
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well all i gotta say is, cool ship :) cant wait for the finished product
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Here's an update on the colouration. I took some cues from the starshuttle. I've tried making the windows into clusters, and so far I can't test it in-game because the ship won't convert to pof. Is there a limit on polies for a single object?

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