[Kosh]

According to a new series, set to debut in 2011, from Steven Spielberg.

From executive producers Steven Spielberg, Peter Chernin, Brannon Braga (24, "Star Trek: Enterprise") and David Fury ("Lost," "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") comes an epic family adventure 85 million years in the making. TERRA NOVA follows an ordinary family embarking on an incredible journey back in time to prehistoric Earth as a small part of a massive experiment to save the human race.

In the year 2149 the world is dying. The planet is overdeveloped, overcrowded and overpolluted. With the majority of plant and animal life extinct, devotion to science has brought mankind to the brink of destruction, but has also provided its only hope for salvation. Knowing there is no way to reverse the damage to the planet, a coalition of scientists has managed to open up a fracture in the space-time continuum, creating a portal to prehistoric Earth. This doorway leads to an amazing world, one that allows for a last-ditch effort to save the human race ... possibly changing the future by correcting the mistakes of the past.

Once again, anything modern or scientific is "evil". Does anyone else seem to notice this trend increasing in recent years in hollywood?

[Flipside]

Well, they wouldn't know a paradox if it killed their grandparents, to be honest I remember Brannon Bragas' ideas about Time Travel from ST:Voyager episodes, and it was painful to watch.

And let's not even mention the fact the 'Science' is not 'Industry'. It might be 'an' Industry, which I'll reserve judgement on, but it's certainly not Science that is polluting the atmosphere or destroying natural habitats

[Scooby_Doo]

LOL sounds like the Texas school books

[Flipside]

I'm wondering how they are planning to deal with the over-crowding, set off a nuclear bomb in pre-industrial Europe?

Edit: Ooooh! I know, kill Louis Pasteur! That'll save the world!

[Kosh]

And let's not even mention the fact the 'Science' is not 'Industry'. It might be 'an' Industry, which I'll reserve judgement on, but it's certainly not Science that is polluting the atmosphere or destroying natural habitats

Doesn't matter, it's EVIL. First there was the series finale of BSG, then Avatar, then 2012, now this. Looks like a trend to me.

[Nuke]

go back to 1941 and give the japanese and nazis nukes.

and technically the theme of science and technology run amok goes back a very long way. think frankenstein.

[The E]

 

We had a discussion about Avatar back when it was released. It was not Anti-Science, not in the least.
BSGs finale was not Anti-Science, it was more like "Our science has advanced too fast for our morality to follow" (Which is completely idiotic, but not Anti-Science, really).
2012.....can't say anything about that, haven't seen it and don't plan to.

As for the series itself, well Brannon Braga is involved, which means I won't watch it. Not to mention that the basic premise sounds utterly silly.
The anti-science angle....well, it IS on Fox. We all know the tenuous relationship they have with what we call reality.

[Nuke]

2012 doesnt have anything to do with science. 2012 was more like titanic 2, cept replace a luxury liner with planet earth.

[BloodEagle]

2012 doesnt have anything to do with science. 2012 was more like titanic 2, cept replace a luxury liner with planet earth.

Why do I suddenly have the image of a giant man in a cowboy getup holding these giant reins around the planet whilst shouting "Ease burg a herd!" in my mind?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

The VasudansSome people view magic as sufficiently advanced technology.

[MR_T3D]

The VasudansSome people view magic as sufficiently advanced technology.

good correction.
unless I'm a vasudan

[Ravenholme]

We had a discussion about Avatar back when it was released. It was not Anti-Science, not in the least.
BSGs finale was not Anti-Science, it was more like "Our science has advanced too fast for our morality to follow" (Which is completely idiotic, but not Anti-Science, really).
2012.....can't say anything about that, haven't seen it and don't plan to.

As for the series itself, well Brannon Braga is involved, which means I won't watch it. Not to mention that the basic premise sounds utterly silly.
The anti-science angle....well, it IS on Fox. We all know the tenuous relationship they have with what we call reality.

Yeah, agree with you completely.

Avatar was more anti-industrialisation/pro-conservation in it's message. Was completely about the need to preserve the planet's natural resources and beauty (Instead of raping and pillaging to get the Unobtainium they desired.)

BSG's ending was slightly silly, but I forgive it because the lead up was awesome.

[Sushi]

Maybe it would be good to wait until the show is released before judging it's message? 

Oh, right, it's the Internet.

Regarding time travel: this is my favorite treatment of time travel paradoxes.

[General Battuta]

Avatar was a recent movie that was really pro-science.

[Ford Prefect]

Look, the Information Age has taken its toll on everyone's attention span, myself included, but, ah... you still really gotta tough it out until you hit one of these:

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As in,

devotion to science has brought mankind to the brink of destruction, but has also provided its only hope for salvation.

[SpardaSon21]

Why the hell would an ordinary family be the ones sent back in time to save the human race?  Wouldn't it be smarter to send some scientists and some guys with guns just in case in hungry large predators?

[karajorma]

It's a show by Brannon Braga where he hasn't been able to nick the ideas of people vastly more talented than him (Like Gene Roddenberry and JMS) when coming up with the basic idea. Any original ideas that the writers do manage to come up with will be squashed under his insistence for ridiculous time travel bollocks from the brain that brought us time travelling Nazis in Enterprise.

While I usually take a "Wait and see" approach with most shows I'm pretty confident that this is going to suck already. So I'm going to assume it's utter ****e until someone tells me differently.

[Flipside]

Why the hell would an ordinary family be the ones sent back in time to save the human race?  Wouldn't it be smarter to send some scientists and some guys with guns just in case in hungry large predators?

They'sa gonna give 'em a dang good hiding wit' their banjos! YeeeHaw!!!

@Ford

Thing is, the simple phrase 'the abuse of' instead of 'devotion to' would have saved the entire sentence from sinking into nonsensicality. I.e. 'The abuse of science has bought mankind to the brink of destruction, but science is our only hope for salvation'. Which is not only true, but doesn't require time-travel either

[SpardaSon21]

So this guy has put time traveling Nazis in Star Trek?  Yeah, this is going to suck hard with no chance of redemption.

[Flipside]

Isn't this also the man who wrote the Voyager episode 'Threshold', possibly the single biggest insult to Star Trek ever conceived?