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Offline Qent

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Many semi auto rifles, like the civy version of the M-16 can be easily modified to full auto weapons.

Unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing with it, you're more likely to kill yourself than modify those weapons into full auto rifles.  The easiest and cheapest (and therefore, most common) way is to file away at the part of the receiver that keeps the weapon from firing the second round with out another pull from the trigger.  When you do that, the next time you just let go of the bolt to load the weapon, it will go off if you're not careful, and it will not stop until the feed of ammunition is disabled.

Unless you actually have the parts to do it, and know very well how, those civvy versions will never be reliable full auto weapons.

Tl;dr:  Don't.  You'll just hurt yourself.  And I guess kind of a "No, it's not easy" comment.
 
Fully automatic weapons are overrated anyway. The M1A would make a perfect battle rifle or sniper rifle and it's not a so-called "assault weapon."

 
Re: US Primary Elections
Wasn't the 23rd district the one with Scozzoforza or whatever-name-was?  She happened to be a moderate Republican up against a Democrat who was on both the Liberal and Democrat lists and she was facing a conservative on the Conservative list who I believe got a larger percentage of the vote than Scozzoforza did.
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Offline Nuclear1

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Yeah, it was because the Conservative candidate got the endorsement of Limbaugh, Palin et al. that Scozzafava had to drop out.  Of course, people still voted for Scozzafava, and that divided the Republican vote enough that a Democrat won the 23rd for the first time since the Civil War.

Brilliant move, Teabaggers.
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Offline Kosh

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The people in this country are just plain fed up with everyone in office and will continue to vote them out hoping for change that will never happen.  New people come in, get money shoved in their face and cast their votes accordingly.  Why else would someone spend millions to win a job that doesn't even pay a quarter million?  It's a broken system that no one is willing or able to fix. 

My sentiments exactly. I'm not going to vote until our campaign financing system gets cleaned up and taken away from lobbyists. Until that happens votes wont matter one way or the other. When they fix it I'll be ready and able to register to vote, fat chance of that happening anytime soon.
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Offline Bob-san

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I highly doubt that any teabagger is going to vote out a republican infavor of a democrat in the name of "vote out all the incumbents!!!"
Well...the teabaggers of the New York 21st apparently weren't too bright in that manner...
The 21st District's already got a new congressperson in 2008. The 20th too (where Kirsten Gillibrand is from, before she stepped into Clinton's vacant seat in the Senate).

Damn, I misspoke.  I meant the 23rd. :nervous:  The one that had the special election last year.
I live right along the border between the 20th & 21st districts. It's literally under a mile away as the crow flies.
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Offline Mongoose

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I didn't even know that Sestak had beaten Specter until reading it in here.  I was far more interested in hockey tonight. :p

 
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Well, Rand Paul won his primary. :yes:
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17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
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[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline General Battuta

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Well, Rand Paul won his primary. :yes:

Are you sure his last name isn't al-Thor?

because then he could be a really enduring figure in government but die in office and leave his constituents disappointed and unfulfilled even though everyone of taste really didn't like him anyway but never mind

 

Offline Nuclear1

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Well, Rand Paul won his primary. :yes:

Are you sure his last name isn't al-Thor?

Hahahaha battman's funny
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Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
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AndrewofDoom - Make it a trio!

 

Offline Bob-san

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The actual election is on 2 November, right? I'll probably need to send an absentee ballot in if it is.
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Offline Blue Lion

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Rand Paul probably has little chance of actually winning. His numbers don't appear to match up well with any of the Democrats, even those that lost the primary.

 

Offline Nuclear1

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The actual election is on 2 November, right? I'll probably need to send an absentee ballot in if it is.

Yep.  I'm in the same boat, since I'll be deployed around that time.
Spoon - I stand in awe by your flawless fredding. Truely, never before have I witnessed such magnificant display of beamz.
Axem -  I don't know what I'll do with my life now. Maybe I'll become a Nun, or take up Macrame. But where ever I go... I will remember you!
Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
Nuclear1 - I want a duet.
AndrewofDoom - Make it a trio!

 

Offline Nuclear1

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First post updated...Indiana's 3rd district is up for grabs now.
Spoon - I stand in awe by your flawless fredding. Truely, never before have I witnessed such magnificant display of beamz.
Axem -  I don't know what I'll do with my life now. Maybe I'll become a Nun, or take up Macrame. But where ever I go... I will remember you!
Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
Nuclear1 - I want a duet.
AndrewofDoom - Make it a trio!

 

Offline Bob-san

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The actual election is on 2 November, right? I'll probably need to send an absentee ballot in if it is.

Yep.  I'm in the same boat, since I'll be deployed around that time.
I'll have two congresspeople, two senators, and a governor to elect. Gov. Patterson has already made it clear that he won't run for another term (he'd wouldn't stand a chance in the primary). Andrew Cuomo will probably get his seat.

Gillibrand is going to face tough opposition thanks to her being 2nd-Amendment-friendly. She's up for special election. Clinton won in 2006, Gillibrand was appointed in 2008 and is up for special election this year. The seat will be back to normal come 2012. So far, it's been 2 years of Clinton, 2 years of Gillibrand, and the possibility of 2 years of someone else entirely.

Rep. Scott Murphy (D) won the special for Gillibrand's former seat by less than half a percent, out of 161k votes. That may be a tough battle for him to keep the seat. The 20th district has had quite a few Republican reps. While most of NY is strong Democratic, there are a few districts that lean Republican.
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My state has Boxer, Pelosi, and Feinstein representing all or some of us. :ick:

Frankly, I don't give a damn which Republican wins the Senate primary here as long as they win the general and Boxer gets kicked out onto her ass.
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17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
17:37:22   Quanto: its not gay if its an elf

[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline MP-Ryan

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Speaking as a foreigner albeit in a country that is extremely closely linked with the United States, the current level of polarization in American politics is ****ing terrifying.  The fact that a movement like the Tea Party is getting both support and media coverage and is actively seeking to remove candidates because they aren't right-wing enough is absolutely astonishing.

The ironically hilarious part is that they believe they're fighting for freedom and against societies like the corrupt fundamentalism in Iran, yet if they have their way the US is going to look far more like a fundamentalist religious society than it has in its history.

It would appear that the "center" in US politics has entirely disappeared.
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Offline Scotty

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It would appear that the "center" in US politics has entirely disappeared.

That's one of the most depressing statements I've heard all day.

 
Re: US Primary Elections
It would appear that the "center" in US politics has entirely disappeared.

That's one of the most depressing statements I've heard all day.

I'm reading a third well-cited academic essay in as many months that concludes this phenomenon is the internet's fault.  Filled with bubbly happiness again?

 

Offline General Battuta

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It may have disappeared in the political discourse, but the electorate itself is still pretty centric.

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Many semi auto rifles, like the civy version of the M-16 can be easily modified to full auto weapons.


Anyone who knows anything about weapons will agree that full auto fire is nearly useless in assault rifles anyway. Multiple well placed single shots in a short time is what makes assault rifle more effective for warfare than earlier bolt lock rifles that require the operator to cycle next round in. With magazine capacity of dozens of rounds (usually around 30) and gas-operated cycle, an assault rifle is just as dangerous whether it has full auto enabled or disabled, because practically everyone with any weapons training will forgo the full auto option anyway in all but very specialized situations.

If you think about it, a nutcase with good aim can pop off a cap in 30 people's ass in a minute, while a nutcase who watched too many rambo movies will spew all 30 rounds from the magazine in less than three seconds and be less than likely to hit any but the first few rounds with any semblance of accuracy.


So, that said, for the feared worst case scenario, a civilian model of M1 carbine or M16 rifle or any other similar weapon is just as dangerous, if not more so, than the full-auto military version, since it doesn't offer the possibility for said nutcase to use the full auto option in the first place. For the purposes of limiting this sort of threat, limiting the magazine capacity of civilian weapons is one option to reduce lethality and the other is limiting civilian weapons to manually cycled weapons (ie. the operator must cycle the empty shell out of chamber and new round in).

I live in a country that has technically bigger firearm density per capita than the United States of A (based on registered. However, this mainly consists of hunting weapons - shotguns and rifles, rather than personal sidearms or full auto disabled assault rifle models (which are mainly used by people involved in voluntary defence associations, which actually co-operate their courses and events with the Finnish Defence Force to some degree) and the majority of violent crimes does not include firearms. In most cases of armed robberies, manslaughter et al, a bladed weapon or some improvised weapon such as a hammer, baseball bat or other blunt object. So, I wouldn't say the amount of guns per ce is the problem, but if the population continuously misuses their privileges, then the privileges should be reduced.

Note that privileges are not the same thing as rights. Privileges correspond to certain responsibility. For example, a license to drive a motor vehicle requires that one does it according to the traffic rules in a a responsible manner. Failing to do so will cause the loss of the privilege to drive a car - it is not a self-explanatory civil right to drive a car.

Early in the history of automobiles, their use was not licensed per ce - the owners of automobiles simply applied for and typically were granted to use their vehicles on public roads. The first country to start using tests to issue driver's licenses was Prussia, though they were mainly concerned about drivers' mechanical aptitude to maintaining their vehicles.

As the number of automobiles in use rised, fatalities started to occur and eventually all drivers were required to have passed a driving education and test to have a license. And so the privilege to drive a car with no special permissions was lost from the populace, replaced by a license-regulated privilege that has to be gained.

No one I know thinks of this as a bad thing. However, it is exactly the same as gun regulation; irresponsible use of automobiles led to fatalities, which led to tighter control over who is allowed to drive one. Why is there no public outcry against controlling government in this case? After all, the American people are about as enthusiastic about their cars as they are about their guns...

Aside from that, I know very little of day-to-day American politics and make random guesses.
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