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Offline Kosh

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And I hope North Korea won't nuke anyone. :)

Even if they did, there are missile defence systems in countries like the US and Russia, right? :nervous:

It won't stop the fallout, though. Kudos if NK launches a nuke and it gets intercepted over the ocean. :blah:

There's one over Moscow, but that's all it protects. As far as I know the US intercept system still doesn't work.
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And I hope North Korea won't nuke anyone. :)

Even if they did, there are missile defence systems in countries like the US and Russia, right? :nervous:

It won't stop the fallout, though. Kudos if NK launches a nuke and it gets intercepted over the ocean. :blah:

There's one over Moscow, but that's all it protects. As far as I know the US intercept system still doesn't work.

I am quite sure that their Biong 707 mounted laser anti missile system has been tested succesfully.

 

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Safe in the UK.

 

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I am quite sure that their Biong 707 mounted laser anti missile system has been tested succesfully.

Really? Well in anycase it still isn't going anywhere. Checking the wikipedia page about it:

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The Air Force has not requested any further funds for the Airborne Laser and Air Force Chief Schwartz has said that the system "does not reflect something that is operationally viable.”[5]

So even though it works (unlike the other systems) they still canned it.  Typical.
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Is there even any evidence that North Korea could feasibly deploy a tactical nuclear device?  There's a big difference between conducting an underground test and being able to mount one on a missile.

 

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Even if they could, their only target could be a location in Korea.  Shooting at their other neighbors would essentially be the end of all life in North Korea.  Shooting at the United States would be ineffectual, considering that the missile would be shot down, some way or another.  After all, it's only one missile and the military would sure as **** do everything possible to stop it from hitting the west coast.  Their only target could be a city in South Korea or an area occupied by ground troops somewhere in Korea.  Kim's kind of extremely wacko, though, so he might just be stupid enough to try a nuke out on a live target.

 

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Even if they could, their only target could be a location in Korea.  Shooting at their other neighbors would essentially be the end of all life in North Korea.  Shooting at the United States would be ineffectual, considering that the missile would be shot down, some way or another.  After all, it's only one missile and the military would sure as **** do everything possible to stop it from hitting the west coast.  Their only target could be a city in South Korea or an area occupied by ground troops somewhere in Korea.  Kim's kind of extremely wacko, though, so he might just be stupid enough to try a nuke out on a live target.

North Korea doesn't have the capability to launch anything that far.

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Is there even any evidence that North Korea could feasibly deploy a tactical nuclear device?  There's a big difference between conducting an underground test and being able to mount one on a missile.

They fired a dummy missile that went over Japan.  I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that they have the capability to strategically hit targets in South Korea.

 

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They fired a dummy missile that went over Japan.  I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that they have the capability to strategically hit targets in South Korea.


But that assumes their nuke is miniaturized enough to fit onto a missile.
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or they don't have some other crazy deployment method in play, like a tunnel or something.
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One does not simply take a tunnel into Mord... I mean South Korea.
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They fired a dummy missile that went over Japan.  I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that they have the capability to strategically hit targets in South Korea.


But that assumes their nuke is miniaturized enough to fit onto a missile.
Exactly.  Like I said, it's one thing to rig up a stationary nuclear device for an underground test, and entirely another to miniaturize/automatize it enough to make it a feasible payload for a ballistic missile.  The atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were delivered from modified heavy bombers, which presumably aren't an issue as far as North Korea is concerned.  The only way they would feasibly be able to deliver whatever they may have is via missile.

 

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there aren't any roads or trains between north and south are there? I don't think there are, and I feel stupid for asking, but I figured I should ask the question.
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Safe in the UK.
Not if the UK fully commits in the event of a war and they pull conscription out of the bag. :P After all, you already have assets committed to helping out somewhere in their neck of the woods.
there aren't any roads or trains between north and south are there? I don't think there are, and I feel stupid for asking, but I figured I should ask the question.
Well I can't imagine any reason anyone from either side would want to cross over, unless it's North to South.
Is there even any evidence that North Korea could feasibly deploy a tactical nuclear device?  There's a big difference between conducting an underground test and being able to mount one on a missile.
If they have that capability, it will almost definetely be used against South Korea, Seoul, more specifically.

The only feasible strategy for the South's survival in a war, is if the South initiate the contact, and eliminate at least 90% of the North's missile batteries. If the North initiate the contact, then Seoul is almost definetely going to bite it.

 

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Didn't the last missile North Korea test-fired crash into the ocean?
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or they don't have some other crazy deployment method in play, like a tunnel or something.

That's not quite as crazy as it sounds. Apparently they have been caught trying to tunnel in to South Korea on more than one occasion.
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And I hope North Korea won't nuke anyone. :)

Even if they did, there are missile defence systems in countries like the US and Russia, right? :nervous:

It won't stop the fallout, though. Kudos if NK launches a nuke and it gets intercepted over the ocean. :blah:

intercepting a nuke won't detonate it.  the trigger charge has to be rediculously precise.  missile defense does work, what DOESN'T work is a complete missile shield if someone decides to lob ALL their nukes at us.  we can shoot down a satellite with a cruiser.  one incoming ICBM is easy pickings.
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And I hope North Korea won't nuke anyone. :)

Even if they did, there are missile defence systems in countries like the US and Russia, right? :nervous:

It won't stop the fallout, though. Kudos if NK launches a nuke and it gets intercepted over the ocean. :blah:

intercepting a nuke won't detonate it.  the trigger charge has to be rediculously precise.  missile defense does work, what DOESN'T work is a complete missile shield if someone decides to lob ALL their nukes at us.  we can shoot down a satellite with a cruiser.  one incoming ICBM is easy pickings.


i think what hes on about is should a intercepting missile hit the missile around the payload then you risk creating a dirty bomb effect with non critical radioactive material falling to earth
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Well, we have two possible options for dealing with a possible Zerg Rush by the North Korean Army, should Kim decide to launch an invasion.

1. Nuke the site from orbit.  Not useful due to fallout and contamination issues.

2. Kill them with fire.  This is always an option for dealing with enemies, unless trying to kill fire demons, fire elementals, and other fire-aligned entities.
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or they don't have some other crazy deployment method in play, like a tunnel or something.

one of their attempted tunnels was even large enough to fit a tank inside. And with a border that size, there are bound to be undiscovered tunnels somewhere along the border.
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And I hope North Korea won't nuke anyone. :)

Even if they did, there are missile defence systems in countries like the US and Russia, right? :nervous:

It won't stop the fallout, though. Kudos if NK launches a nuke and it gets intercepted over the ocean. :blah:

intercepting a nuke won't detonate it.  the trigger charge has to be rediculously precise.  missile defense does work, what DOESN'T work is a complete missile shield if someone decides to lob ALL their nukes at us.  we can shoot down a satellite with a cruiser.  one incoming ICBM is easy pickings.


i think what hes on about is should a intercepting missile hit the missile around the payload then you risk creating a dirty bomb effect with non critical radioactive material falling to earth

the initial fuel actually isn't all that hot.  you can even handle it, though it's obviously not GOOD for you.  i wouldn't hang out next to it for fun, but dispersal wouldn't be particularly dangerous.  the nasty stuff is the fission products.  the bigger concern would be recovering the nuclear material from a proliferation standpoint.
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