[swashmebuckle]

I really like both versions and think they should both be finished.  The new DReimZ obviously shares more design elements with the ARC-170 and has a more vintage Clone Wars era vibe (remember the Headhunter was introduced even before the events of The Phantom Menace).  The success of the line would obviously spawn many changes over the length of its production run, and Brand's older version looks to me more like a Dark Times era fighter.  The fact that Incom was now producing the fighter for civilian markets rather than the Republic could have steered the line towards the more robust, multiply-redundant 4 engine design, and many other improvements would have been incorporated along the way, to the point where the incremental changes eventually "outgrew" the basic design, leading to the concept being redrawn from the ground up as the X-wing.

Edit: Also, the more parts we have for uglies the better.

[brandx0]

I'd like to disagree there.  The reason I scrapped that other one is because it didn't look like a predecessor to an X-Wing, it just looked like an X-Wing.  While I appreciate the constructive criticism, this is the version I've decided to go with.

[zookeeper]

I very much prefer the new one. The usual Z-95 depiction with the four engines looks like someone just wanted to make a more primitive version of the X-wing and did nothing except took off half the wings. It's boring. Also I simply find it ugly, as the wingtip cannons somehow unbalance the whole thing: there's an engine above and below the wing, yet only one cannon placed on top of the wing (unlike on the X-wing). It just looks ugly to me. The new one doesn't suffer from that because that kind of engine/wing-symmetry is gone.

[swashmebuckle]

Well if I had to pick I'd take the new one, but variety is the spice of life!* How about a version of the Die-Wing with Z-95 engine/wings rather than Y-wing engine pods?** Still a piece of crap, but maybe the wingtip cannons could be replaced with low-grade ion cannons or something for a bit more variety in the ugly department.  Headhunter parts should probably be more common than X-wing parts during the galactic civil war anyway.

*When someone else is doing the work
**Hey, more work!

[-Norbert-]

I just noticed something on the engines. There is a 90° angle at the transition from the air intakes (or whatever it is) to the actual engine.
Since the Z-95 looks to have atmospheric flight capabilities I think it might be a good idea to put something over that part to make it more streamline, because such a 90° angle would cause troubles when actually flying in atmosphere.
Besides it would look better.

Considering how bad I am at describing which place I mean, I'm adding a picture marking the places I'm talking about.

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[Thaeris]

I'm still going to vouch for the older one - my rational hasn't really changed.

On a second note, the Z-95 is supposed to have gone through many design iterations which produced a large slew of physical differences (just like the many variants of the X-Wing). The version you have now is, as I noted earlier, like a new trilogy design while the previous version is better suited for the original (good) trilogy. If you care to make variants of the Z-95, the new model would certainly fit the bill as an early variant.

[brandx0]

Norbert, I was planning on adding some secondary intake sort of things there, hence the 90 degree angle.

Besides, beyond that even, the X-Wing is supposed to have good atmospheric flight qualities as well, and just look at how streamlined it is... hehe

And no, I'm not reviving my older version of the Z-95, the one already linked to in this thread.

[-Norbert-]

Sure thing about the X-Wing, but if you make changes to that one there will be riots in the streets.... or at least on the forums 
With the Z-95 you have far more freedom to do such things, just like you did with the engines and the holes in the wings.

[brandx0]

Yeah, I'm not touching the X-Wing, don't worry

[Thaeris]

With the Z-95 you have far more freedom to do such things, just like you did with the engines and the holes in the wings.

Dear God...

In Soviet Galactic Empire, not only does George Lucas RETCON YOU, but so does Brand!

 

[Vector Leader]

Yeah, I'm not touching the X-Wing, don't worry

Thank God. lol The new X-wing model is a masterpiece. Same with the A, B, and Y-wing models. You got mad modeling skills, Brand.

Speaking of the Y-wing model, I have a quick question for you. Were you planning on darkening the yellow and blue markings so they appear more prominent like in the films? Right now they look quite faded and almost non-existent. I remember a discussion about this some time ago after you redid the Y-wing model, but I don't remember what the verdict was.

[brandx0]

In the films actually they were virtually non-existent.  The current version is, in fact, far more saturated than the film versions and I don't intend to over-compensate any further

[Thaeris]

There is something I'd like to see...

Can we get a size comparison/scale comparison between the two models? The newer one looks a bit small in comparison to the older work.

[brandx0]

They're both the same length

[Vector Leader]

In the films actually they were virtually non-existent.  The current version is, in fact, far more saturated than the film versions and I don't intend to over-compensate any further

Hmm, I think your right about the yellow markings, but the blue rings just behind the sensor domes seem a tad light.

Hot damn it looks good, though. lol

[Archaic]

i dont get why we are all complaining...most of us are lucky if we can get a model looking vaguely like a source image.

brand is making digital models accurate to actual studio models used in filming.

we have no right to complain, these arguments are going no where and serving no purpose than to make brand wonder why he even bothers posting this stuff when its not finished.

i pray you look at the topic before you post. i see no y-wing mentioned there, hence, this is not relevant to the topic at hand (namely the NEW [note the emphasis] Z-95).

now, as i am sure my comment before was lost:

the z-95 has been stated in EU as having 'triple blasters' at the wing tips, the weapons on the model look suspiciously like blaster cannons to me.

also, is the conc missile tube centered under the nose?

[StarSlayer]

i dont get why we are all complaining...most of us are lucky if we can get a model looking vaguely like a source image.

brand is making digital models accurate to actual studio models used in filming.

we have no right to complain, these arguments are going no where and serving no purpose than to make brand wonder why he even bothers posting this stuff when its not finished.

i pray you look at the topic before you post. i see no y-wing mentioned there, hence, this is not relevant to the topic at hand (namely the NEW [note the emphasis] Z-95).

now, as i am sure my comment before was lost:

the z-95 has been stated in EU as having 'triple blasters' at the wing tips, the weapons on the model look suspiciously like blaster cannons to me.

also, is the conc missile tube centered under the nose?

The triple blaster version is only on the Mk I from Han Solo's Stars End(?) that one also had variable geometry wings and a forked tail.  The variant Brand is making is the later more prevalent version with the twin Taim & Baks.   As for the Concussion Missile tubes i assume its just the angle we're seein'

[Vector Leader]

i dont get why we are all complaining...most of us are lucky if we can get a model looking vaguely like a source image.

brand is making digital models accurate to actual studio models used in filming.

we have no right to complain, these arguments are going no where and serving no purpose than to make brand wonder why he even bothers posting this stuff when its not finished.

i pray you look at the topic before you post. i see no y-wing mentioned there, hence, this is not relevant to the topic at hand (namely the NEW [note the emphasis] Z-95).

now, as i am sure my comment before was lost:

the z-95 has been stated in EU as having 'triple blasters' at the wing tips, the weapons on the model look suspiciously like blaster cannons to me.

also, is the conc missile tube centered under the nose?

Complaining? For the most part, we're offering praise for his stellar work. Everything else are questions and critiques.

[brandx0]

Haven't decided on a final position on the concussion missiles.  Also the Y-Wing is just lit very brightly.  You'll see the difference in game.

[Vector Leader]

Also the Y-Wing is just lit very brightly.  You'll see the difference in game.

Ah, I had feeling that might be the case.

Do you plan on modeling variants for the Z-95? I imagine that might be a pain, though. Considering there's so little to work with outside of fairly vague descriptions. Correct me if I'm wrong.