[Lucika]

This man is a genius. Fantastic rip-apart of all the creationist crap. I am hooked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqB4FOlCtls

[iamzack]

Meh. Arguing with creationists doesn't even make me feel smart anymore. It's like arguing with my schizophrenic kid brother.

[Dilmah G]

It's meant to make you feel smart? They're just generally ripe for a good laughing at whenever they come by. There's this one Jehova's Witness bloke that used to come around. He made the mistake of waking me up on a Friday morning to listen to his sermon about how I was wrong two years ago. He hasn't been back since.

[iamzack]

It's not funny anymore when they grow up and become elected politicians or end up on school boards.

[Snail]

It's not funny anymore when they grow up and become elected politicians or end up on school boards.

You are very successful at making me hate society.

[Scotty]

I don't feel like clicking that link.  On the other hand, I don't feel like being a colossal troll.

What particular brand of creationists are we talking here?

Well, maybe a little troll.

[iamzack]

People who think evolution didn't happen. Hence the name, "creationist."

[Scotty]

Ah, carry on then.

(However, simply the term "creationists" isn't really enough to distinguish that finely.  People can believe life was created somehow but still accept evolution.)

[iamzack]

The definition of life is man-made and arbitrary. We decided what is living and what isn't.

[Qent]

Creation means that the universe didn't exist and then it did. It shouldn't necessarily have anything to do with evolution, or life for that matter.

But "People who think evolution didn't happen" is a good qualification here.

[Scotty]

The definition of life is man-made and arbitrary. We decided what is living and what isn't.

None of that disagrees with my statement.  People can believe life was created somehow but still accept evolution.

[iamzack]

And that's a useless belief that does nothing to further the pursuit of knowledge. In fact, what it does is say "Life was created, no need to look into the matter any more!"

[Scotty]

And now you're just making sweeping generalizations.  It says nothing of the sort.  It could, in fact, say just as easily: "Life was created, I wonder how that happened?  Let's find out."

[Galemp]

It's not funny anymore when they grow up and become elected politicians or end up on school boards.

Deeply disturbing, but true.

[iamzack]

And now you're just making sweeping generalizations.  It says nothing of the sort.  It could, in fact, say just as easily: "Life was created, I wonder how that happened?  Let's find out."

I assumed by "created" you meant by some sort of supernatural entity since that's the usual use of the word.

[Qent]

And now you're just making sweeping generalizations.  It says nothing of the sort.  It could, in fact, say just as easily: "Life was created, I wonder how that happened?  Let's find out."

I assumed by "created" you meant by some sort of supernatural entity since that's the usual use of the word.

People who believe that the universe came into existence usually believe there was a cause for it, yes.

[Scotty]

It also does not mean that it precludes any undertaking to find out how.

[iamzack]

Tell that to Galileo.

That was silly. Tell it to people who think Creationism should be taught in public schools. They are not understanding the whole science trumps beliefs idea.

[Wobble73]

It also does not mean that it precludes any undertaking to find out how.

Religion should stick the the why's and not the how's!

[iamzack]

We already had that argument. If science can't answer it, there's no answer. Religion is a security blanket.