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Offline Dragon

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That's why I'd like a PCS2 function, it'd allow everybody to easly add insygnia.
PCS2 should have a tool for adding them, done better than in PCS1 (in which it wasn't very handy and didn't had a proper preview).
And how exactly could it be done better?
For example, a more intuitive UI and preview on a model would be very helpfull.

 

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No, seriously guys, squadron logos are horrible and disgusting and should never have been included ever. It's the main reason why FS2 wasn't as good as FS1, because the squadron logos for me completely ruined immersion which was something that FS1 was much better at, IMHO. So really, I dont think they should be included at all anymore, even if there's an option to disable them it means that most people will be using them, so really I think squadron logos should be removed altogether so nobody uses them because thats how I want it and thats the way it should be

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no im being 100% serious because i think theyre very ugly and totaly uneeded and should definately be removed

 

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Okay, but srsly now, they do look kind of silly. More like giant 3 meter stickers than painted on insignia. :P

 

Offline Kolgena

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What exactly is the issue? Are the stickers too perfect, or perhaps have odd lighting responses? I wouldn't mind squadron insignia, but I have long forgotten what they looked like on high poly models.

 

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Nothing. Incidentally, that's what insignia are; except that they're not an SCP feature.
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I'm pretty sure that when I fixed the Apollo, I left the squadron logo on the ship

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How did the GTA roundel end up there? That's not where I put it on the texture.
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That texture was in an older version of Twist of Fate. :nervous:  I guess I forgot to replace it with Galemp's newer HTL Apollo texture.

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Galemp's newer texture isn't the one i was talking about. The roundels on that ship were on different parts of the ship, and they  were not stretched like that.

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For example, a more intuitive UI
You're going to have to be more specific than that.

 

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No, seriously guys, squadron logos are horrible and disgusting and should never have been included ever. It's the main reason why FS2 wasn't as good as FS1, because the squadron logos for me completely ruined immersion which was something that FS1 was much better at, IMHO. So really, I dont think they should be included at all anymore, even if there's an option to disable them it means that most people will be using them, so really I think squadron logos should be removed altogether so nobody uses them because thats how I want it and thats the way it should be

Just because you do not like to have squadron Insignia, doesn't mean that everybody should be deprived of the option to have them on their games. I like the idea of having it as an option in the launcher, so that it leaves it up to the player to decide what he wants. And when it is disabled for you it is disabled in your game, so that if another player has it enabled in multiplayer you don't see his logo if that is what you are complaining about when you say "most people will be using them."

What if some guy in the world said "I think freespace is stupid, nobody should play this game ever" and so Volition said "ok this one guy says he thinks it is stupid lets do something else."  :wtf:

Okay, but srsly now, they do look kind of silly. More like giant 3 meter stickers than painted on insignia. :P

Who says they have to be huge? A model can have an insignia that is pretty small, just big enough to be able to see it when you inspect the ship. It can be worked out to be like a texture and shape itself like the hull it sits on so that it isn't a very ugly thing to have. It is more of a neat little feature that says "hey look I am in the 70th blue lions" but not scream it.
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I don't know about other people, but I put squadron insignias on ALL of my fighters/bombers, and I tend to use them in missions I make. Makes everything look better.
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I have to agree that squadron logos when done in a style sympathetic to the texturing of the fighter enhance the look and on human/terran fighters works with the natural human pride in their unit and desire to wear/display their unit's crest as a badge of honour.
No, seriously guys, squadron logos are horrible and disgusting and should never have been included ever. It's the main reason why FS2 wasn't as good as FS1, because the squadron logos for me completely ruined immersion which was something that FS1 was much better at, IMHO. So really, I dont think they should be included at all anymore, even if there's an option to disable them it means that most people will be using them, so really I think squadron logos should be removed altogether so nobody uses them because thats how I want it and thats the way it should be

Just because you do not like to have squadron Insignia, doesn't mean that everybody should be deprived of the option to have them on their games. I like the idea of having it as an option in the launcher, so that it leaves it up to the player to decide what he wants. And when it is disabled for you it is disabled in your game, so that if another player has it enabled in multiplayer you don't see his logo if that is what you are complaining about when you say "most people will be using them."

What if some guy in the world said "I think freespace is stupid, nobody should play this game ever" and so Volition said "ok this one guy says he thinks it is stupid lets do something else."  :wtf:

Okay, but srsly now, they do look kind of silly. More like giant 3 meter stickers than painted on insignia. :P

Who says they have to be huge? A model can have an insignia that is pretty small, just big enough to be able to see it when you inspect the ship. It can be worked out to be like a texture and shape itself like the hull it sits on so that it isn't a very ugly thing to have. It is more of a neat little feature that says "hey look I am in the 70th blue lions" but not scream it.


I'm planning on including including squadron logos in the mod I am creating and I know that for the likes of FotG squadron logos painted on fighters are canon for many important groups such as rogue squadron

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Offline Snail

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Just because you do not like to have squadron Insignia, doesn't mean that everybody should be deprived of the option to have them on their games. I like the idea of having it as an option in the launcher, so that it leaves it up to the player to decide what he wants. And when it is disabled for you it is disabled in your game, so that if another player has it enabled in multiplayer you don't see his logo if that is what you are complaining about when you say "most people will be using them."

What if some guy in the world said "I think freespace is stupid, nobody should play this game ever" and so Volition said "ok this one guy says he thinks it is stupid lets do something else."  :wtf:
I wasn't being serious. :P


That said, I do think squadron logos look a bit too clean and the light doesn't seem to fall on them properly. Other than that I have no problems.

 

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Offline Dragon

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For example, a more intuitive UI
You're going to have to be more specific than that.
Check out how PCS1 looked and you'd see that UI would need a complete rework.
Basically, changing it into something understandable and describing how all those fields work and what they really do.