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Saw this a couple of days ago, looks interesting as a point defence system, not sure it would be effective at longer ranges because of degradation, though, can't help thinking this would be better at targetting and destroying AAM or ASMs than aircraft, a single generator could use opical cable to have point-defence energy re-directed to the area of the ship that needs it (kind of like redirecting power to aft weapons in Star Trek or the like), and the vessel could basically have 360' missile cover.
 

 

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Well, we could hopefully get Star Wars up in orbit, and from there move to Ion Cannons.
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[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Nothing new here except for having shrunk the size a bit. The original 1989 or so proof-of-concept laser system required replacing an entire Mk41 VLS. It's still not a practical main weapons system for the Navy because it lacks range and won't work in fog or heavy weather. VLS missiles have neither problem. It'd be nice for point defense, but doesn't appear to offer much of an improvement over Sea Whiz in engagement resolution or ability to deal with multiple inbounds (indeed, it might be worse). And it probably takes up more space.
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Well, we could hopefully get Star Wars up in orbit, and from there move to Ion Cannons.

Notice the wars we're involved with right now?   Space based ICBM kill sats aren't going to do anything about them, other then waste resources and put us deeper into debt.  Besides Star Wars already did its job.
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Fine, we still need some ion cannons though so we can vaporize their mountain strongholds.
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[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

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[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline Flipside

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Nothing new here except for having shrunk the size a bit. The original 1989 or so proof-of-concept laser system required replacing an entire Mk41 VLS. It's still not a practical main weapons system for the Navy because it lacks range and won't work in fog or heavy weather. VLS missiles have neither problem. It'd be nice for point defense, but doesn't appear to offer much of an improvement over Sea Whiz in engagement resolution or ability to deal with multiple inbounds (indeed, it might be worse). And it probably takes up more space.

If they could get the size small enough it might make an interesting point defence on high-altitude bombers I suppose, operating above the clouds would give the laser a certain advantage but then most missiles are coming from below so it would depend on how far above the clouds and whether lasers would really be worth the space compared to the huge EW and Countermeasures bundles already on-board.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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If they could get the size small enough, it might make an interesting point defence on high-altitude bombers, I suppose, operating above the clouds would give the laser a certain advantage, but then, most missiles are coming from below, so it would depend on how far above the clouds, and whether lasers would really be worth the space compared to the huge EW and Countermeasures bundles already on-board.

The B-2, depending on who you ask, already has an infrared laser for burning out missile seekerheads...
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Offline Flipside

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Didn't know that, seems like a sensible application. The company rep seems to think it's just a question of getting more power to the laser, whereas the truth is that the important thing is effectiveness, why use the power to cut a missile in half when you can make it self-destruct for a quarter of the energy?

 

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it doesn't take much to **** up anything thats powered by a rocket engine, punch a tiny hole in the right spot and its going down. aircraft same thing, you just have to lase the fuel tanks, the laser should puncture the tanks and provide sufficient heat for ignition. if that dont work you could at the very least blind the pilot.
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Flipside, more power to the laser means more range for the laser since it can lose more to atmospheric interference and still be effective.
17:37:02   Quanto: I want to have sexual intercourse with every space elf in existence
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[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

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Yes, it does increase the range, but the fact is that the 'effective' range would be even further if they weren't focussing on the ability to slice UAV's in half :)

 
Well, if it can slice a UAV in half at a certain range, it could burn out a missile seeker at a longer range, couldn't it?
17:37:02   Quanto: I want to have sexual intercourse with every space elf in existence
17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
17:37:22   Quanto: its not gay if its an elf

[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline Flipside

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Depends on how its working, and what it's targetting, it seems the obsession here is to get the plane that is launching the missiles, which makes sense in a way, take out the source of the problem, then no more problem, however, even now, lasers are big and thirsty, making them more thirsty may not be the answer, it's a trade-off, how much power do you need to make this weapon worth the power it is using?

 

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The ones they were going to (and for all we know have already) mounted in 747s to drop missiles back on their own launch sites worked with 3 lasers.  The first was a scanning one that picked up the target.  The second was a targeting one that determined range and speed.  The third was the high powered one that burned through the skin and detonated the fuel in ms. 

What is in the video could be the same thing.  One quick high powered shot after tracking.  No burning it in 2.  Just a quick, precise hit. 

As for making the skin reflective yea it might stop the laser but you'll never get close with all that signature. 
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Mirrors will not stop lasers. They will slow them down (maybe) but will always, always burn away or simply be destroyed in the first hit. No mirror is 100% efficient and the fraction of energy that gets through is enough.

 

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