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Offline CommanderDJ

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Fighter docking with a cruiser
on: September 22, 2010, 06:24:12 am
Hello HLP,
Just a question about the validity/believablility (that's not a word) of a fighter being able to dock with, say, a Fenris and being able to rearm/repair that way. Would that be pushing the bounds a bit? I don't see why, seeing as they can transfer people and stuff via an Elysium or Argo transport, surely they'd be able to transfer missiles from a Fenris to a fighter, but I'm double checking to see what the general consensus is before using it.

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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #1 on: September 22, 2010, 06:29:49 am
It's a whatever works for your story type thing, personally I don't see an issue with it story wise
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 07:45:32 am
It's just as plausible as any other thing in fs, you make the rules pal.

As for the engine being able to do that, I can say it's possible indeed, might need a little tweaking, but it can be done.
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #3 on: September 22, 2010, 09:32:20 am
Keep in mind that fighters don't have docking rings. The pilot would need to make an EVA to access the cruiser...
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #4 on: September 22, 2010, 09:43:53 am
Quote from: Thaeris on September 22, 2010, 09:32:20 am
Keep in mind that fighters don't have docking rings. The pilot would need to make an EVA to access the cruiser...

Most fighters actually do have a rearming dock that - if you can pull it off without ugly model clipping - could be used as an improvised dockpoint.

The EVA approach has been used (like boarding the Duke in AoA), but the common spacesuit model is way too big.  :nervous:
 

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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #5 on: September 22, 2010, 09:54:04 am
Couldn't you just implement an autopilot that manouvers the fighter very, very close to the cruisers docking port without actually docking?
That should give the illusion of a docking manouver, without requiring anything other than carefull SEXP usage.
 

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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #6 on: September 22, 2010, 10:29:42 am
I have to assume it's possible, since I don't think back during the T-V War they were trying to breach nodes with an Orion up front every time.
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #7 on: September 22, 2010, 10:39:29 am
Quote from: General Battuta on September 22, 2010, 09:43:53 am
Quote from: Thaeris on September 22, 2010, 09:32:20 am
Keep in mind that fighters don't have docking rings. The pilot would need to make an EVA to access the cruiser...

Most fighters actually do have a rearming dock that - if you can pull it off without ugly model clipping - could be used as an improvised dockpoint.

The EVA approach has been used (like boarding the Duke in AoA), but the common spacesuit model is way too big.  :nervous:

This is true. Isn't there a GTVA pilot model somewhere that someone might convert into a .pof for such purposes?
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #8 on: September 22, 2010, 03:55:44 pm
Docking with support ships works because the support ship does all the work, and you just have to sit still. If the fighter needed to dock with a larger ship, you could use SEXPs that put the fighter under AI control then give it orders to dock, reload weapons, undock and surrender control back to the player.
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #9 on: September 22, 2010, 04:01:13 pm
It would be nice to have an option for support ships to refuel you while you're moving by matching speeds (perhaps set in ai_profiles.tbl), but probably a code nightmare.
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #10 on: September 22, 2010, 04:01:15 pm
You could AI the fighter and make it dock, or you could use something like in WoD Campaign where you just needed to be x meters away from some subsystem and then the process of rearming/repairing began.
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #11 on: September 22, 2010, 05:30:37 pm
Quote from: Woolie Wool on September 22, 2010, 04:01:13 pm
It would be nice to have an option for support ships to refuel you while you're moving by matching speeds (perhaps set in ai_profiles.tbl), but probably a code nightmare.
They already can, sort of. You just need to be moving, like, 10-15 mps and they can catch up to you and dock.
 

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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010, 04:30:27 pm
Yeah, a support ship can actually catch you in motion, just not much motion.
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #13 on: September 23, 2010, 04:32:38 pm
It'd be nice to be able to adjust this speed though.
 

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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #14 on: September 23, 2010, 04:42:25 pm
The AI code is utterly verboten last I checked...
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #15 on: September 23, 2010, 04:44:07 pm
Quote from: NGTM-1R on September 23, 2010, 04:42:25 pm
The AI code is utterly verboten last I checked...

erwhat? Sushi's been making changes to it left and right. Fury got a number of changes implemented during BP2 development and Sushi's work for Diaspora is doubtless even more extensive.
 

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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #16 on: September 23, 2010, 04:44:54 pm
Quote from: General Battuta on September 23, 2010, 04:44:07 pm
erwhat? Sushi's been making changes to it left and right. Fury got a number of changes implemented during BP2 development and Sushi's work for Diaspora is doubtless even more extensive.

Last time I suggested it be messed with Taylor ate my face. :P
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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #17 on: September 23, 2010, 04:50:53 pm
Quote from: NGTM-1R on September 23, 2010, 04:44:54 pm
Quote from: General Battuta on September 23, 2010, 04:44:07 pm
erwhat? Sushi's been making changes to it left and right. Fury got a number of changes implemented during BP2 development and Sushi's work for Diaspora is doubtless even more extensive.

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Re: Fighter docking with a cruiser
Reply #18 on: September 23, 2010, 07:34:13 pm
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