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Offline Liberator

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on: April 28, 2002, 01:34:30 am
:devilidea Here's a strange thought.

What if the first two Great Wars were tests by the Shivans to see if we have developed enough to aid them against an even greater foe?

For instance, in FS1 after the Vasudan homeworld was rendered uninhabitable(it was not destroyed, as in 'boom') the Shivans more or less ignored the umpteen Vasudan colonies and went on to find Earth.  Perhaps if their inital fleet is able to decimate a species homeworld they write them off as not being powerful enough and move on.  They came back because we destroyed they're expeditonary force and they're giving us a second look?
The destruction of Capella could be a diversion to give us time to build our forces in anticipation of their third visit, when they will communicate with us for the first time and explain everything.  

Of course they could have taken Bosch to see if Humans make good burgers too.
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Offline Blue Lion

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Reply #1 on: April 28, 2002, 01:47:32 am
I doubt it, you don't cripple a potentional ally like that
 

Offline Carl

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Reply #2 on: April 28, 2002, 01:54:50 am
we don't want to be your ally. we just want to kill you.
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Offline Liberator

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Reply #3 on: April 28, 2002, 01:56:55 am
You do if you want to force them to develop faster.

"That which doe not kill me makes me stronger."

The main reason the Shivan were not as scary in FS2 as they were in FS is because we were stronger, more able to hold our own.  Beam weapons:mad2: , Anti-Matter Torpedoes;7 , Meson Bombs :headz: and all the rest of it developed out of the perceived need for better weapons to defend agains the Shivans.  The Lucifer fleet served to strengthen the Terrans and Vasudans, allowing them to build ships and weapons almost equivalent to the Shivans.

The Shivans therefore destroyed a star to sheild us from the Great Enemy until our technology is equal to or superior to theirs.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

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Offline Setekh

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Reply #4 on: April 28, 2002, 02:01:56 am
"noooo..... peeaaacce....."

Oh, wait, wrong aliens... :D
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Offline Carl

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Reply #5 on: April 28, 2002, 02:22:32 am
actually, V implied that the shivans are at war with someone else, and they attacked us to keep us out of it.
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Offline Tar-Palantir

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Reply #6 on: April 28, 2002, 03:27:22 am
Plus why would the Shivans want to ally themselves with us? They own us.
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Offline an0n

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Reply #7 on: April 28, 2002, 05:30:17 am
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Originally posted by Liberator
You do if you want to force them to develop faster.

"That which doe not kill me makes me stronger."

The main reason the Shivan were not as scary in FS2 as they were in FS is because we were stronger, more able to hold our own................. The Lucifer fleet served to strengthen the Terrans and Vasudans, allowing them to build ships and weapons almost equivalent to the Shivans.

They are NOT Shadows.


Why don't we just ask Dave about FS3 story concepts?
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Offline Ulundel

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Reply #8 on: April 28, 2002, 07:13:18 am
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Originally posted by Carl
we don't want to be your ally. we just want to kill you.


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Offline FSW

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Reply #9 on: April 28, 2002, 09:36:10 am
Shivans are probably fighting wars with dozens of other species, but I doubt that they need any help annihilating random species.
 

Offline Unknown Target

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Reply #10 on: April 28, 2002, 10:06:41 am
Lol! Is that you in disguise, Infested_Larvae?:D
Anyways, yes, the Shivans are fighting someone else, but not who you think...
Wait and see...
 

Offline Nuclear1

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Reply #11 on: April 28, 2002, 11:03:06 am
:wakka: The Shivans! Ally with us?! :wakka:

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Offline Corsair

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Reply #12 on: April 28, 2002, 01:50:43 pm
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Why don't we just ask Dave about FS3 story concepts?
You think he would actually tell us? :jaw: ;7 :lol: :wakka:
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Offline karajorma

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Reply #13 on: April 28, 2002, 01:57:30 pm
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Originally posted by Unkown Target
Lol! Is that you in disguise, Infested_Larvae?:D
Anyways, yes, the Shivans are fighting someone else, but not who you think...
Wait and see...


Don`t have to :D I already know. :)
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Offline Stunaep

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Reply #14 on: April 28, 2002, 03:31:49 pm
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You think he would actually tell us? :jaw: ;7 :lol: :wakka:


Hey, he gave us the source code.

In other words, not a chance.:(
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Offline killadonuts

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Reply #15 on: April 28, 2002, 04:10:05 pm
They came back because Bosch sent the NTC Trinity into the nebula.
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Offline Mr. Vega

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Reply #16 on: April 28, 2002, 04:20:05 pm
We shouldn't talk about the Shivans motives. We need to keep them as mysterious and frightening as possible.
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Offline Galemp

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Reply #17 on: April 28, 2002, 04:48:08 pm
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Originally posted by Carl the Love Doll
actually, :V: implied that the shivans are at war with someone else, and they attacked us to keep us out of it.


I presume you're talking about when they said "The Shivan invasion was a symptom of a bigger problem?" I really doubt that. The bigger problem, I believe, was the Terran and Vasudan invasion into subspace and annihilating all less developed life. The Ancients, remember the legacy of the Ancients! The Shivans came and destroyed us to give other life a chance to survive. Okaaaaay? (we need a frown smiley between :mad2: and :blah: )
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Offline Crazy_Ivan80

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Reply #18 on: April 28, 2002, 05:07:45 pm
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor


I presume you're talking about when they said "The Shivan invasion was a symptom of a bigger problem?" I really doubt that. The bigger problem, I believe, was the Terran and Vasudan invasion into subspace and annihilating all less developed life. The Ancients, remember the legacy of the Ancients! The Shivans came and destroyed us to give other life a chance to survive. Okaaaaay? (we need a frown smiley between :mad2: and :blah: )



but we're not (as far as I'm aware) destroying lesser lifeforms... Do you think that the GTVA would allow that? Do you really believe the GTVA would allow xenocide/genocide?
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Reply #19 on: April 28, 2002, 05:14:14 pm
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From the Ancients readings:
We encountered other advanced life, and we subdued it, or we crushed it.


The Ancients monologues tell a parallel story to that of the Terrans and Vasudans. Need I say more?
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