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Offline Colonol Dekker

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The template is scarily true. Onoz.
on: October 21, 2010, 02:39:03 pm
Honestly, I don't frequent this site much but it made  Freespace lose a tiny fraction of its lustre :(
 
 
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Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
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-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline General Battuta

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #1 on: October 21, 2010, 02:53:48 pm
this is why fs2>fs1
 

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #2 on: October 21, 2010, 04:32:32 pm
Annnnnnd, after about two hours of tvtropes-ing, I'm back. Thanks a lot.

Yes, that page is frighteningly accurate for way too many stories.
 

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #3 on: October 21, 2010, 05:43:27 pm
It's all in how you execute anyways; only a few plots are truly dead.
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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #4 on: October 21, 2010, 07:11:10 pm
That's the point of the site though: everything's been done before, in one way or another. Truly original plot ideas are practically nonexistent. The originality and freshness of a story is all in how the ideas are used and executed.

The fact that Freespace is not a really unique story at its core does not make it bad. The fact that it presented the atmosphere and story well and in intriguing ways is what makes it good.
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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #5 on: October 22, 2010, 05:02:16 am
Also, don't forget that FS is rather old, so at the time, it was much more unique than it's now.
Along with Wing Commander and X-Wing, it is one of the "space shooter archetypes", which others tried to follow.
 

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #6 on: October 22, 2010, 05:32:53 am
Quote from: General Battuta on October 21, 2010, 02:53:48 pm
this is why fs2>fs1
Your beloved Starcraft is also on that page too. :P
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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #7 on: October 22, 2010, 06:24:16 am
Oh I get it! SCARILY............... I wondered what sacrily was!  :lol:
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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #8 on: October 22, 2010, 06:45:07 am
Quote from: Hades on October 22, 2010, 05:32:53 am
Quote from: General Battuta on October 21, 2010, 02:53:48 pm
this is why fs2>fs1
Your beloved Starcraft is also on that page too. :P

It's not 'my beloved', and I read the page in depth years ago, you inbred lunk. I'd never defend Starcraft as a remarkably original piece of storytelling.
  

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #9 on: October 22, 2010, 06:54:07 am
Starcraft is like FS in that matter though.
It's quite original, others ripped off it.
It's more a case of Seinfield Is Unfunny, as these games (along with other SF classics from that era) basically created the Standard SciFi Setting.
 

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #10 on: October 22, 2010, 07:02:27 am
I dunno, I think the standard SF setting happened around the time of Tolkien.
 

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #11 on: October 22, 2010, 07:24:12 am
Quote from: General Battuta on October 22, 2010, 06:45:07 am
Quote from: Hades on October 22, 2010, 05:32:53 am
Quote from: General Battuta on October 21, 2010, 02:53:48 pm
this is why fs2>fs1
Your beloved Starcraft is also on that page too. :P

It's not 'my beloved', and I read the page in depth years ago, you inbred lunk. I'd never defend Starcraft as a remarkably original piece of storytelling.

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #12 on: October 22, 2010, 07:36:55 am
I like to think Hades and I have an understanding.

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #13 on: October 22, 2010, 07:42:22 am
What you two are doing in the privacy of ...whatever..., I don't care. This is not IRC. There are different rules here, you understand? And I would remind you that as a Global Moderator, there is a bit of decorum expected of you. Or at the very least, a slight bit of respect for the rules.
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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #14 on: October 22, 2010, 07:44:49 am
Quote from: The E on October 22, 2010, 07:42:22 am
What you two are doing in the privacy of ...whatever..., I don't care.

If only America's policies on our non-heterosexual citizens were so open!'

In general though I think a bit of ribbing is a good way to prevent pointless megathreads. Better to derail into some juicy ad hominems than waste time on THINKING LOGICALLY
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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #15 on: October 22, 2010, 08:23:15 am
Thread = this train
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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #16 on: October 22, 2010, 09:02:42 am
Scarily sacrilegious :nervous:
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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #17 on: October 22, 2010, 10:33:57 am
Quote from: General Battuta on October 22, 2010, 07:02:27 am
I dunno, I think the standard SF setting happened around the time of Tolkien.
It really depends what we're talking about.
Some parts of what is described on the trope page are as old as Lensman (which may be the first Space Opera in existance), while some, especially video game-specific ones, were introduced in games such as Wing Commander, Starcraft, FreeSpace, Descent or Quake. Notice how broad are some definitions on the page, standard SF setting wasn't created at once by one particular work.
FS didn't had many games (aside from X-Wing and Wing Commander) to follow, same with Starcraft or Doom.
 

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Re: The template is sacrily true. Onoz.
Reply #18 on: October 22, 2010, 11:47:10 am
Quote from: General Battuta on October 22, 2010, 07:44:49 am
Quote from: The E on October 22, 2010, 07:42:22 am
What you two are doing in the privacy of ...whatever..., I don't care.

If only America's policies on our non-heterosexual citizens were so open!'

In general though I think a bit of ribbing is a good way to prevent pointless megathreads. Better to derail into some juicy ad hominems than waste time on THINKING LOGICALLY
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Re: The template is scarily true. Onoz.
Reply #19 on: October 22, 2010, 02:10:11 pm
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WorldWarII

tvtropes can tropify everything. And FS was pretty original.
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