[terran_emperor]

Feel free to post any you have spotted

Okay here we go (and I appologize for resorting to TV Tropes terms where I have.)

1) Halo
I've said it before and I'll maintain it.

I see shades of Halo ship to ship warfare in the Fleet tactics.
Basically, the UEF's tactics of wiping out enemy capitals with Rail-guns and Macross Missile Massacres is what UNSC ships do.
Whilst the GTVA seem to prefer death by Beam Spam like the Covenant do.

This is based on the description of Cap-ship warefare as described in the Halo Novels and what little we see in the games

2) Hinduism
The whole council of three thing...whith the non Zod aliens. Do I really have to go into this?

3) Dune
The Fedayeen just sceamed Feydakin (The Elite Fremen Guard of Mau'dib)...Then I found out that that group was based on Real Life Fedayeen.

Also the whole Ngari (Sp?) thing makes me think of the effect the spice has and the Kwisatz Haderach
Hmmm Samuel Bei could be equated to Paul Atreides while Noemi could be the counterpart to Feyd-Rautha Harkonen or Leto Atriedes II...Um it gets a bit complicated...

(I'll clarify the above bit as soon as I can work out how to)

4) Real Life Ubuntu
I may be wrong but is Ubuntu in Universe the same/based on the real life concept?

[-Norbert-]

The covenant isn't really about beamspam. Their main weapon are plasma torpedoes and only their most elite ships use beams, at least in the four Halo books I have read.

I really don't remember anyone in Dune communicating with "higher" beings. And that's what the Nagari factor is really about - the ability to communicate with Vishnans and/or Shivans... maybe also among each other, but I havn't ready anything to that effect.

4) Real Life Ubuntu
I may be wrong but is Ubuntu in Universe the same/based on the real life concept?

Not the same but based around the same basic principals, if I got the team's comments right.

[OllieG]

Some of the psychological aspects of the plot are definitely influenced by "On Killing," a non-fiction book about the psychology of killing in war.

The Martian military owes a lot to the culture of pilots in the 2004 Battlestar Galactica series, especially the episode "Scar" (about a attempt to hunt down a particularly deadly enemy pilot). 

[Buckshee Rounds]

Silly question but does Blue Planet have any members also working on Diaspora?

[General Battuta]

Nobody involved in R1 was also working on Diaspora except Nighteyes, who did some visual effects.

[Darius]

Some of the explosion effects were Dabrain's from BtRL.

Dune was a definite influence for some parts of AoA.

[General Battuta]

Some of the explosion effects were Dabrain's from BtRL.

Dune was a definite influence for some parts of AoA.

And War in Heaven. We <3 Dune.

[Buckshee Rounds]

You must definitely have BSG fans though, I've seen WiH being compared to it numerous times now.

[-Norbert-]

There is of course the "fleet all alone on the way home" story that AoA has in common with BSG.... but then the greeks did it long before BSG with the saga of Odysseus, only that it wasn't a whole fleet there.

[General Battuta]

There is of course the "fleet all alone on the way home" story that AoA has in common with BSG.... but then the greeks did it long before BSG with the saga of Odysseus, only that it wasn't a whole fleet there.

BSG spoiler:

Spoiler:

Ironically the AoA fleet got to Earth to find it in ruins well before the BSG one did!

[-Norbert-]

The re-envisioned one maybe, but there was another BSG series decades before, allthough they didn't find Earth in ruins.

[General Battuta]

The re-envisioned one maybe, but there was another BSG series decatdes before, allthough they didn't find Earth in ruins.

Please. New BSG is so much better than the one with Lorne Greene. 

[SomeGuyWithAName]

Considering that I really disliked the new BSG (I can't even say why, something about the overall style and the actors... dunno), I'm glad it could help shape something as awesome as this.

[Herra Tohtori]

The re-envisioned one maybe, but there was another BSG series decatdes before, allthough they didn't find Earth in ruins.

They certainly never found Earth filled with hover bikes.

[-Norbert-]

Please. New BSG is so much better than the one with Lorne Greene. 

Wether you like it more or less than the new BSG series, doesn't change the fact that it exists.... and did so even long before there ever was Descent 1, much less an FS2 mod called Blue Planet.

[terran_emperor]

Can we avoid turing this into a "Which Galactica was better?" Discussion. Personally I like them both (Galactica 1980 notwithstanding). Comparing them is like comparing the Adam West Batman series and the modern films (Ignoring Batman & Robin) - Essentially the same but completly different.

I also found a way to rationalize Galactica 1980 - Its an in universe story written by Boxey - hense how wierd it is.

But that's getting off topic

Yes I noticed the nBSG's influence when it got brought up...Hmmm Ngari and "The Music"...or the Vishnans with Head-Six/Head-Baltar/Other "Angels"...

The covenant isn't really about beamspam. Their main weapon are plasma torpedoes and only their most elite ships use beams, at least in the four Halo books I have read.

I really don't remember anyone in Dune communicating with "higher" beings. And that's what the Nagari factor is really about - the ability to communicate with Vishnans and/or Shivans... maybe also among each other, but I havn't ready anything to that effect.

I was being a bit liberal with the term "beam spam" - I was including laser turrets under that phase. The Point is that the UEF's preference for kinetic/ballistic weapons (missiles and Mass Drivers (And please Don't bring the Maxim into this (I know and have made the Arguement myself)) and the GTVA's preference for energy weapons, not to mention the general tactics of each side, of how the UNSC and Covenant opperate.

Besides In the games - Word of god is that Game-canon takes presidence over book canon - the covenant ships love beside

As for dune
Think on it this way: Paul Atreides and Feyd-Rautha were both considered viable candidates for the Kwisatz Haderach (KH)*. Pual seems to be the more peaceable one, who will do what needs to be done and killed because he had to. Whilst Feyd was the more psychotic one and killed because he enjoyed doing it. Compare these enturpretations to the characterizations of Sam Bei and Noemi Laporte and maybe you'll see where I'm coming from.

*The Bene Gesserit plan was for Paul to have been female and then wed to Feyd and their child would have been the KH. But anyone who has read the book/seen the film knows what happened instead.

-fixed-

[X3N0-Life-Form]

*The Bene Gesserit plan was for Paul to have been female and then wed to Feyd and their child would have been the KH. But we all know what happened instead.

For those who have read Dune, ofc.
(I did)

[-Sara-]

More interesting I always found Freespace itself to be based a lot on "Space 2063" also known as "Space Above and Beyond". The way Vasudans look like the antagonist 'chigs' and don armour, their religious background and zealot-like behaviour shown when humans stomp on holy ground, the ship design (the triangular anubus, carapaces and scales on vessels). Not to mention the whole narrowly surviving and striking back theme.

A funny note to me is that the Uhlan looks a lot like the 'Hammerhead fighter' from that particular series, which gave me a chuckle as the manufacturer of the Uhlan is apparantly 'Saab Spaceframes', where Saab (besides a swedish car manufacturer) is the common abbreviation for Space Above and Beyond.

[General Battuta]

Whoa. That's quite a set of coincidences. 

Saab does make fighter jets even today, though.

[Scourge of Ages]

Good call on the Hammerhead reference, Sara. I noticed the same similarity in ship design.
It's been way too long since I saw the show and I almost completely forgot everything about the Chigs to make the other connections (except that water kills them, and you fly their ships by sticking your arms in holes, like giant cows).