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Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?

Yes, a flat score
12 (21.4%)
I want a component score, but unfortunately it's impossible right now
8 (14.3%)
No
36 (64.3%)

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Offline General Battuta

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Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
I want to get a general sense of feeling on the topic.

EDIT: be aware that a component score is not possible at all right now since the script is apparently not open to customization.
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Offline TopAce

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
We already had this discussion several times before.

And I said in the thread at the FSWiki board, rating not only is inaccurate, but in the numbers they exist in this community, the outcome is not representative. Let's deal with it: This is not the Internet Movie Database where even the least popular products are voted on 100-150 times.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
We already had this discussion several times before.

And I said in the thread at the FSWiki board, rating not only is inaccurate, but in the numbers they exist in this community, it is not representative. Let's deal with it: This is not the Internet Movie Database.

This debate is happening again right now in the 'best mod' thread, which is why I want to have this poll.

I am not advocating any position (well, okay, I'm advocating 'no').

 

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Yes, I'm following that thread. It's too bad that it got derailed into this subject.
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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
I still think a component score would work, as I expect the values given by voters to be more representative that way. I may be wrong, though.

EDIT: I request this poll be linked by admins to news (right above "home", "help", "search", etc. etc.) to get as many votes as possible.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Component score is not possible.

 

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Not with the Wiki's rating bar. It's still possible to create polls anywhere else (I suggest using Game Warden's poll system), work a bit on statistics, and post the results on each campaign's article on the Wiki as normal text. It's more complex and requires a lot of reliability (unless we decide to use Game Warden).
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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Unless the polls came with a sampling frame analysis I would edit them out of every article I saw them in.

 

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
I went component score because at the end of the day not everybody look for the same things. 

I still stand by my position that an anonymous rating system would be beneficial for new members, those of us who are regulars to the board have a reasonable idea what's good or not even if we haven't played it because of the feedback we have read.  But people who are new to the HLP or dont browse it often don't have this advantage so will find it harder to find mods they would like.

EDIT: I request this poll be linked by admins to news (right above "home", "help", "search", etc. etc.) to get as many votes as possible.


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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Unless the polls came with a sampling frame analysis I would edit them out of every article I saw them in.

The text will link to Game Warden's polls so that people will be always updated on how the votes change.
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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Unless the polls came with a sampling frame analysis I would edit them out of every article I saw them in.

The text will link to Game Warden's polls so that people will be always updated on how the votes change.

That's not a sampling frame analysis.

 

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Why not?
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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Game Warden? No disrespect, but that place is dead. (And I would argue that it doesn't need a resurrection).

And it would make the problem even worse, as separating the voting site from the subject being voted on is not a good idea, I think.

Also, if I understand the term correctly, "sampling frame analysis" means metadata about the voters. Gathering that is a necessary first step to ensure statistical validity.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Why not?

Do you know any sampling statistics? The_E has it right.

 

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
So... we're voting on whether or not to vote? :wtf: (I know this is just for opinions, but still.)

I think being able to vote from 1-10 with the option of adding a review would be good, but that it has no place on the wiki. Now I think I said this before, but isn't all this already on FSMods?

 

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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Yes, it is. And it's hardly ever used for campaigns that are not available for download there.
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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Yes, it is. And it's hardly ever used for campaigns that are not available for download there.

It's hardly used period.
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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Let's look at it this way...

When I want to find a campaign to play, I load up the campaign list on the Wiki. I read the description, the requirements, and any veteran comments. I get far more out of the veteran comments than any numeric rating. Furthermore, if something is rated poorly, I want to understand why its rated poorly.

Thus, this is my conclusion - keep the campaign listing the way it is. It works just fine, and if you are wanting to play something, you are more than capable of using your own judgement in determining if you'll like it.

Otherwise, if you must include a numeric rating with a campaign, any voter must include a comment with the said vote. This might be comparable to ratings you find on iTunes or other such download sites. In that manner, you'll help prevent any empty imput for or against a campaign; empty imput does no one much good, after all.
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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
Agreed.
It's a lot more helpful to know why someone didn't like something, as I might actually like it in contrast.
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Re: Should campaigns be given numerical rankings on the Wiki?
+1 to thaeris