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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
I agree. At the same time, I'm not sure what to do about it.

 

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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
There's nothing to do about it.

It's a subjective article. Someone thought that BP was a good showcase of the state of progression of the mod community for Freespace 2. I'd be hard pressed to argue with that.

The fact it omits other stuff is superfluous. Not every Freespace article has to be about everything that was ever made for Freespace.

It's a good article. It gives mainstream exposure.

That's good enough.

The core of the article, where it represents what Freespace is would be a point of contention if it was done in an egregious manner. But the general representation is pretty well done.

 

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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
and lets face it for 6 months to a year or more BP has and still does influence conversation around here.  How many improvements to the engine have been at the request or support of the BP team? how many people would be happy if BP was instead FS3 produced by :v: ? also there is still a WiH related piece in the highlights bar 4 months after WiH p1 was released.  After AoA and WiH were released the community was buzzing about them more so that I remember any other releases.

Please dont rag on an article for picking up on the vibe of the community.  Yes there are worthy projects that could have been mentioned like WoD, FotG, Diaspora, Vassago's Dirge, FS Port, TVWP, BtRL, WCS, TBP but we dont know what limits the writer was under so what would have had to be left out of the article? tbh I am happy with how it panned out and as mentioned by others glad for the exposure
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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
The main thing here in my opinion, aside from BP getting their plug, is the tireless work of the SCP crew getting just recognition.

They really deserve it.

Kinda wish Digital Foundry would throw an article on FS as well.

 

Offline General Battuta

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That might end up being pretty brutal.  :nervous:

But I agree. No matter what fashionable mod du jour is getting the spotlight, ultimately it comes back to the SCP's hard work. And people don't usually stop with one mod, either; they keep going.

We're in this together as far as I'm concerned.

 

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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
We're in this together as far as I'm concerned.
Given the amount of badge crossover around here, often quite literally. :p

 

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Honestly, I wish people would have more focus though. We'd get so much more done by focusing our efforts on given several projects instead of spreading time and resources thin over a dozen projects, and time to get them done is multiplied by each project.

 

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Yes, but that would be boring. Which projects deserve to be the chosen few? Who wants to play a campaign they built more than one someone else built, and that they've never seen/played before?
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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
Maybe those people who are part of several project find it easier to motivate themselfs when they can pick what they'd like to make today instead of being settled with just a single job and thus get more than they otherwise would.
While I have no experience in modding, that's how I'm faring when it comes to painting WH40K minies, with the exception of the occasional figure I really want to make in one go (usually the first of it's kind I ever made). :nod:

 

Offline General Battuta

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I agree with Fury. Nobody who I have seen who has rapidly picked up multiple project badges has been particularly productive on any one of them, except Axem.

 

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I have no project badges. Does that mean I'm extra-super productive?
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#DIV/0!

So no.

 

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I have no project badges. Does that mean I'm extra-super productive?

Hey, look at me. I don't do anything, but you host FSMods. We both have no project badges.
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Offline Fury

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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
Yes, but that would be boring. Which projects deserve to be the chosen few? Who wants to play a campaign they built more than one someone else built, and that they've never seen/played before?
It'd be up to the individuals to decide what they'd focus on. The point still remains. The more projects one has joined into, the less productive one is. This is generalization but it is mostly very accurate one. One because team's productivity is low, the longer each project takes to finish.

If a person has joined to two projects, has approximately one hour per day to spend on modding. How much he spends on each project? Less than 30 minutes because he needs to keep tabs on two projects, communicate with two teams, etc. And as we know, human's aren't exactly made for multi-tasking. Now, take the same person and have him join to two more projects, so now he has four projects. You're lucky if he's able to spend 5 minutes per project.

Great, now what? The person has to choose which project to focus on. What happens after a while is that the person starts feeling guilty for giving other projects little focus. So now he's again trying to fiddle between multiple projects, usually with little success. If the person has not discussed the situation with other team members, he's eventually bound to get some pressure on himself from said team to get things done.

Rinse and repeat until you have burned out person who has steadily lost motivation.

Not exactly a success story here, is it? Now, focusing that effort and time on one, maybe two projects at a time is time and effort much better spent. Not only it is more efficient use of one's resources, it also more efficient for one to handle psychically.

So I'm not going to back down from saying it as many times as necessary. Joining multiple projects (or at least more than two) in almost all cases is idiotic.

 

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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
Guilty as charged.
Well, I do kinda blame the fact that I join other projects cause the ones I'm already on go dormant...
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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
The moment I quit two projects I got a full night of quality FREDding in. I hadn't done that in a while, because I kept getting distracted by other things I needed to do to earn those badges.

I saw this happen with the Spectrum of War team, too.

 

Offline Fury

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Well, I do kinda blame the fact that I join other projects cause the ones I'm already on go dormant...
Guess twice what is one of the major reasons this happens? Yeah, you got it right. Lack of focus. Granted, if people would focus their effort on 1-2 projects at any given time, it would still lead to dormant projects.

I'm sure it doesn't feel right or justified when it's your own project at stake here, but think long-term.

If you have a bunch of people focusing on a campaign or mod, it takes time for it to complete. But they will get it done much faster than they would if they had spread their time among multiple projects. Okay, so they just completed their campaign or mod, now what? Well, obviously they'd move on to next one. And that might just as well be your own project.

In the end efficiency is higher and more projects will be completed in shorter time. Of course, for those who are waiting for people to help with their projects it may not mean much. But which projects people join is up to them, obviously the more promising ones would be sort of automatically top priorities, as disheartening as that sounds to many would-be new project founders.

Both methods have their ups and downs. But at least the community would get more things done if there was better focus.

 

Offline peterv

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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
From my personal experience, Fury is right. But then again, since we are not a professionals, we need to be inspired from a mod to work in it, and not all mods inspire everybody.

 

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Re: Freespace 2 still getting coverage
The moment I quit two projects I got a full night of quality FREDding in. I hadn't done that in a while, because I kept getting distracted by other things I needed to do to earn those badges.

I saw this happen with the Spectrum of War team, too.

In my case at least, that was due to non-FS related stuffs entirely.  Can't really speak for Dilmah or Snail though.

  

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