[Sololop]

I'd just leave it be... I don't like the idea of adding a new ship to the ani that isn't canon. I just like the idea the ani's are getting revamped, to look better, but still are the same (or the same as possible) as I saw them over 10 years ago.

[Droid803]

Or irresponsible, rather.
If something turns out to be a horrible idea, just got to know how to take it back...

I mean, we could always try putting something non-canon in, and seeing how it goes...

Also, don't we already have a (small) list of "material that's in canon sources that you shouldn't take as canon"?

Notably the Vasuda-bombing cutscene...

[Rodo]

The thing is you guys are voting to change something that originally was different.
I don't understand why should we change this one now and do nothing about those node inconsistencies in FS1 ani's (which if we start changing I'm sure will bring problems to HLP) or leaving the Ravana as the ship jumping in on the past ani.

[Kolgena]

I don't like your notion of "trying" or experimenting with non-canon elements, just to see if they'll work or not. That's wasting mjn's time.

[Droid803]

Well, its up to him to decide if it is a waste of his time or not.

[Hades]

Also, don't we already have a (small) list of "material that's in canon sources that you shouldn't take as canon"?

Notably the Vasuda-bombing cutscene...

But that's actually got a root in canon, unlike the Imohtep. It uses canon ships in a canon setting (namely, the glassing of Vasuda)

I voted 'no'.

[Black Wolf]

I would like to reiterate my earlier suggestion of the Setekh. It solves both problems, since it adds a Vasudan ship and stays entirely within canon. It doesn't even neccesarily need to be scanning the knossos with the green beams - just put it in the background somewhere to get the point across.

[Pred the Penguin]

Edit: I agree with the above post. If people really want to see vod ships, a canon ship is probably the best choice...

I a lot of people think that there would absolutely no Vasudans on Terran ships... Of course there were vods studying the portal, just not visible to you as a player.

I agree with making things more interesting, but in a way that's faithful to the original work... warts and all.

Anyway, just my two cents.

Off-topic: I really need to get around to playing ST:R one day. >_<

[MatthTheGeek]

We do not want to have to start a list of 'material that's in canon sources that you shouldn't take as canon'. That would be dumb.

Since when is FSU supposed to be canon ?  didn't make it. It can't be considered a canon source.

If you start considering FSU as canon, then let's consider STR and BP as canon too. That's not what we want, is it ?

FSU is a mod. The adjective "canon" should never refer to it.

EDIT : BTW I'm strongly for making two different versions of the ANI, the pure canon one ending up in the MVP, and the Imhotep one available for DL for anyone who wants to add it in.

[General Battuta]

FSU contains graphical upgrades to canon material. It alters nothing meaningful in the canon.

[Angelus]

Canon. Yes, indeed.

So we should change all the recent HTL ships to "canon".
The new Sathanas, while awesome, doesn't look exactly like the retail one. It should have been upgraded in a way, where every greeble, has it's source on the canon texture. Same for the Hattie, and of course for all other ships and effects.
We want to stick with canon. Canon is the only way.

Seriously.


 

[peterv]

Despite that our recent HTLs are great models, they are also recognized by the community as upgrades of the retail models.
Changing the ANIS is a different matter. It applies to the way Volition wanted to tell the story. It's much more radical than aesthetic changes to the original ships.
 

[General Battuta]

There is an obvious difference between improving the physical appearance of canonical ships without altering their fluff or role, and introducing a new ship which has no canonical fluff or role.

[Colonol Dekker]

I voted no. MVP's are upgrades not replacements. There's no reason why alternates cant be made though

[mjn.mixael]

Based on the poll and community response, I'm keeping it as a Faustus. Now... In the future when I don't have 60 other ANIs to complete, I'll probably make an alternate version with more Zod action.



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[Kolgena]

Those normal maps on the knossos look inverted. They're supposed to be grooves, not veiny ridges.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Those normal maps on the knossos look inverted. They're supposed to be grooves, not veiny ridges.

No, that's just the diffuse map, it looks like that. Dates back all the way to the pre-normal map era; probably tried to emulate a normal map effect with it.

[Kolgena]

I dunno. If you look at the head of the small subunit, that looks a lot like normal map lighting, at least to me.

[mjn.mixael]

Flipping the normal didn't change anything, it definitely has to do with the mapping.

[Dragon]

Can't you use HTL Knossos?
Scratch that, it seems that it's HTL, just the resulution is rather small and I didn't looked closely at it.