[MP-Ryan]

...now we have some fundamentalist Christian groups that are out to spread the misinformation.  Fits nicely with the typical anti-science tripe that comes out of these people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to1naH2A7GU&feature=player_embedded

It's from a DVD series being produced called "Resisting the Green Dragon."

[Ghostavo]

I kinda laughed at 1:35-1:40.

(...) and how it's pointing people away from God, and into humanism!

Oh noes! 

[Luis Dias]

The Green DRAGON! HElll YEAHAAAAHHHH!!!

"... and scare the little children to reach your political goals...."

This coming from a christian video made by people that, without a doubt, is constantly preaching hellfire to little children.

Ahhh fu.... whatever...

[StarSlayer]

   The Green Dragon? isn't that a cannabis drink?

Seriously though, I was kinda waiting for them to break out the reasons for why environmentalism is the bad for religion but apparently saying its evil is sufficient for their intended audience.  Does it run counter to the some teaching that the Lord Jesus Christ will keep the world spinning like a top no matter what we do to the environment?  Do they advocate feeding baptized babies to polar bears?  Give me something.

[Herra Tohtori]

Oh, you can search far and wide
You can drink the whole town dry
But you'll never find a beer so brown
But you'll never find a beer so brown
As the one we drink in our hometown
As the one we drink in our hometown
You can drink your fancy ales
You can drink 'em by the flagon
But the only brew for the brave and true
Comes from That Green Dragon!

[watsisname]

Fuuuuuu, now I desire a LotR marathon.

* watsisname goes afk for like 9 hours

[Bobboau]

well, this is going to make it stupendously difficult for anyone to legitimately criticize any environmentalist position... nicely played funditards... nicely played...

[Titan]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 

[Nemesis6]

1:37 -- "Family Research Council" is the only one of these groups that I immediately recognize, along with the "concerned women for America". I don't know what these groups really stand for in practice, however. I saw an interview with the CWA lady in a series by Richard Dawkins where it seemed like they were pushing...


Ok, I listened to it. Everything they say can be thrown right back in their stupid face! Even more so in that of their religion. By the way, when she gets into how they call it "the green dragon", I started going "yeah, you're the American Taliban, so..." in my head!

[Mefustae]

****ing badass!

I really think they have a point. The Divinity and worship of Jesus Christ is in serious danger from people worshiping the Green Dragon, for the simple reason that a giant green dragon beats the crap out of a 33-year old jewish carpenter.

Seriously, where can I find the Cult of the Green Dragon? I would so be there. Getting together in some epic temple erected on a mountain, prostrate before a giant statue of a dragon with blazing eyes made of giant emeralds. Every hour of the day, the surrounding valleys would be filled with the steady, monotone rhythm of our never-ending chant of running air-conditioners at 23+ degrees and switching off lights in empty rooms. Then James Earl Jones would turn into a snake. Awesome-sauce.

[Nuke]

i find that most greenies spend most of their time trying to reduce their own guilt than actually reduce their carbon emissions. they preach "save the planet", the drive their gas hungry cars instead of carpooling, walking, biking or taking public transportation. leave all their lights and all their electronics on all the time, take twice daily showers, waste food, water, medicine, fuel. buy new cell phones every 6 months and fail to recycle their old ones properly. they leave their heaters up at 80 and their a/c down to 60. i have the luxury of being relatively poor, so i dont waste all those resources.

the only way that kinda life style is sustainable is to have the world set up as it is now. where the majority of people live in total poverty and the elite few in the developed world use up all the resources. installing lightbulbs and driving a hybrid might reduce your resource usage from a 2000 times what people in africa use to about 1999 times (i in my relative poverty probibly only use up 1500 times the resources of your average african). yea, big reduction there. but since i have the better end of the deal i dont see any reason to change anything.

*all numbers are pulled out of my ass, nuke is not required to source anything, nuke is insane and therefore exempt

[peterv]

Red Dragon: The only answer to the Green Dragon.

[Snail]

that was an incredibly lame pun

[Angelus]

So, they say in the vid basically "**** nature - help the poor" ( while showing children in Africa, was a nice touch, btw).
And yet i can't imagine, those guys sending moneys to Africa, or going there and help in one way or another.

And that only Religion will save you.
Yeah, poison the Oceans, chop all trees, drive only cars that need min. 15l/ 100km.
And when **** hits the fan, pray.  "Take the faster route to paradise!" 



The ugly lady said: "...the magificent Planet, God has entrusted to us...".

Yeah, he did that i guess. There's no line in the Bible that says "...and God declared: Earth is property of mankind. Do with as you please...". One can say, ( from a scientific pov), that we are entrusted temporarily with it.
And if someone entrusts you with something, shouldn't you take good care of it? You know, treat it well, try not to break it, abuse it? Well, i wont for sure entrust one of those retartds with anything, not even with kitchen trash.

I can't believe that someone take such individuals actually serious.

[Titan]

I dunno why we're all freaking out so much over this; it's not like anyone's actually listening to them.

I really don't see how there could be a downside to continuing to try to be as green as possible. I mean, what could we get? Better cars, cleaner air, no more smelly dump a few blocks away and upwind of my house, more trees, energy that doesn't have to get sucked from the ground, which means lots of good stuff like healthier wildlife, etc. Even if global warming is B.S., then there's really no downside to being eco.

[Polpolion]

wait, what's this video about? they didn't even raise any specific points - it was just one big testimonial from people with fancy titles.

[Mobius]

...now we have some fundamentalist Christian groups that are out to spread the misinformation.  Fits nicely with the typical anti-science tripe that comes out of these people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to1naH2A7GU&feature=player_embedded

It's from a DVD series being produced called "Resisting the Green Dragon."

YouTube is full of Christian-made videos showing extreme arrogance. Leave them here so that people can realize how bad they are. (Though misinformation can be quite dangerous, at times.)

[Titan]

wait, what's this video about? they didn't even raise any specific points - it was just one big testimonial from people with fancy titles.

Most of whom sounded like complete ass-douches.

[Nemesis6]

Now I can understand these people releasing their videos on youtube...

But who would actually buy DVDs with this crap? Oh yeah, Christian home/private-schoolers.

[Nuke]

I dunno why we're all freaking out so much over this; it's not like anyone's actually listening to them.

I really don't see how there could be a downside to continuing to try to be as green as possible. I mean, what could we get? Better cars, cleaner air, no more smelly dump a few blocks away and upwind of my house, more trees, energy that doesn't have to get sucked from the ground, which means lots of good stuff like healthier wildlife, etc. Even if global warming is B.S., then there's really no downside to being eco.

its a matter of proportionality. if you graphed out the carbon usage vs income of the entire population, you will find that changing only the small details like what kind of car you drive, what kind of light bulbs you use, etc, you will find that these middle class save the planet types dont move very much on that graph. their changes just aren't big enough to matter.