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Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
The concept one needs the lower fins IMO.
Its what stops it from looking like ass.
Problem is that that changes the target profile >.>

NOT THAT IT MATTERS, cause the Aeshma can't dodge for **** and only knows how to fly in straight lines or do lazy circles.
I just noticed those. Would be nice if they were there before.

 

Offline Rampage

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
I think this screenshot from this angle occludes the lower fins.

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Offline Rampage

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
It's been a pleasure working with BrotherByron and the FSU Team.  Texturing on the Aeshma will begin soon.

BrotherByron informs me that the Scorpion is almost done and he is working on the Manticore as well.  I also sent him my Shaitan WIP.

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Offline BrotherBryon

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
Scorpion!



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Offline Rga_Noris

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
YES.
I think I'll call REAL Mahjong 'Chinese Dominoes', just to make people think I'm an ignorant asshat.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
That annoying zippy ****er looks pretty good there.

 

Offline Lucika

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
This is no longer usable as a scout ship. This is too awesome to go away unnoticed.
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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
Simple, yet elegant.  Me likey. :yes:

 

Offline Trivial Psychic

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
It's nice, but I feel that it could use some accessorizing... little details to add dimension to the design, though I can't be any clearer than that.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
I actually don't like this one at all. I'm sorry.  :(

I am struggling to provide some kind of useful feedback but I'm so bad with models I don't know what to say. It just doesn't look...coherent, to me? But maybe it's just the original design being kind of crappy?

 

Offline Rampage

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
Good design, but I have several points:

First, the chirality (as shown in the pictures above) of the new Scorpion is incorrect.  Please mirror the ship along its saggital axis to correct this.
Second, although the shape is excellent, more details should be added IMHO.  I really like the detailiing on the engines; perhaps the rest of the ship could be detailed like that.
Third, the triangular gun points on the side could be made more like what you had on the Astaroth and the Aeshma, so they don't look like polygons tagged onto the hull.

Great job overall; FTW.

-R

 

Offline BrotherBryon

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
First, the chirality (as shown in the pictures above) of the new Scorpion is incorrect.  Please mirror the ship along its saggital axis to correct this.

Not exactly sure what you mean by that. Will work on the guns, I wasn't too sure what to do there as we don't see any shivan guns really exposed on any other model. They always seem to be built into ship's structure. Will try adding some details but I think I may be at the limit for what can be gleaned off the textures. Seems a lot of the FS1 era shivan ships used a lot of the same textures and the detail placement usually comes off as looking odd.
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Offline Droid803

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
Chiralty, you know, like in Organic Chem.
Enantiomers.
You have one non-superimposable mirror image.
He believes it should be the other.
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Offline BrotherBryon

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
So I should demount all the parts (Cabin, guns, engines, and missile pod) from the chassis, make it symmetrical and then mount them all back?
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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
He means that your ship is mirrored compared to the original.
Thus, you should apply the MIRROR modifer to it to flip it left/right.
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Offline BrotherBryon

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
Oh crap that again, I wonder why that keeps happening. Every time I import a retail model after extracting it via LithUnwrap it does that. Not a big problem when dealing with symmetrical models but here it shows. 
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Offline BrotherBryon

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
Fixed the mirror issue, reworked the guns (I like them a lot better now) and started adding a few more details here and there as I've seen fit. Question though do I model in the actual thrusters? The original uses these red glowing cubes there and I've applied a similar concept with the upgrade so far.
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Offline Rampage

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
Don't model any thruster effects.  Red glowing cubes work best for now.

-R

 

Offline mjn.mixael

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
 :doubt:

The red glowing cubes were the worst looking detail of any Shivan craft I can think of.... I beg you to add some sort of detail there (geometry or texture, doesn't really matter).. it really needs something there IMO.
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Offline BrotherBryon

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Re: Shivan Strikecraft Upgrade Status
More Pics!, Changes since last pics:
Reworked the guns
Made minor changes to the front end of the missile pod (Looks a little more like the concept art now)
Fixed the issue with the missile pod being on the wrong side of the cockpit
Reworked the spire so that the area that will be red glows wraps completely around it and made it a bit skinnier (Back to about retail size).
Added recessed areas to the underside of the cockpit as hinted at in the retail texture
Added a few more minor detail items here and there (Small recesses and beveled edges mostly)

Keep in mind this ship isn't much bigger than the Dragon so any more detailing will most likely never be seen by the player. Especially with how damn fast and maneuverable these bastards are.




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