[Flipside]

It's like all things though, some people like Lord of the Rings, others think it's pointless drivel, some people like 'Real Life' or 'Political' Dramas or Soap Operas, whereas I think they are some of the most boring crap on TV, it's all down to personal taste. I've never been a big fan of James Bond, for example, in any of its incarnations, I didn't enjoy Vanilla Sky, but I did enjoy Sixth Sense. I don't think there's any steadfast way of identifying what people are or are not going to like.

Edit: Another good example would be 2001: A Space Odyssey, that's a film that has divided movie-goers opinions for as long as I've been alive.

[Davros]

I worship at the altar of Gaming Goodness

[Ravenholme]

I wonder how the census office here in Britland would respond to "Loosely Abrahmic Deist"

[Pred the Penguin]

star wars is ****

And here I was hoping you would tie your roommate to a chair and make her watch the movies.  The original three movies that is, not the prequel trilogy.

hell no

they are all ****

Elaborate, please.

Boring? I liked the books more (the few I've read).

Don't read all of them...

[Flipside]

I liked the Timothy Zahn ones, I still feel that he made Admiral Ackbar ten times better by putting him up against Admiral Thrawn, who is still my favourite SW character of all time, no force, no lightsabre and one of the best imagined characters for it.

[BloodEagle]

the characters were uninteresting, the story was uninteresting, and the whole thing is made worse by the following

it's basically the nerd twilight

Ah, okay.

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I liked the Timothy Zahn ones, I still feel that he made Admiral Ackbar ten times better by putting him up against Admiral Thrawn, who is still my favourite SW character of all time, no force, no lightsabre and one of the best imagined characters for it.

Zahn and Stackpole (early works) are two of the best in the expanded universe.

[General Battuta]

Stackpole is unfortunately kind of predictable, and Zahn, while a dear man and incredibly fun to spend time with (seriously, I love him), has been largely downhill from his first three in terms of Star Wars contribution. They're decent reads if you're a young'n.

Matt Stover is the closest to something meaty and interesting in the Star Wars ouevre.

[Pred the Penguin]

I really liked the books he wrote, he introduced concepts you don't normally see in Star Wars novels..
I don't like the New Jedi Order series, but I enjoyed reading Traitor on it's own.

[iamzack]

* iamzack pukes all over the thread

[sayoqod]

* iamzack pukes all over the thread

Is it really that bad...?

[General Battuta]

No. Though you're a bit past the golden age to start on them, the first two Star Wars films are genuinely entertaining and deserve their reputation. They're not deep or complex or dramatic, but they are genre-defining.

[iamzack]

Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"

[karajorma]

It should be pointed out that one of the reasons why Star Wars might seem clichéd is because a lot of modern cinema copied it.

[swashmebuckle]

Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"

I resent this comment.  Muppets in Space might not have been the best one, but it's got a serious command performance from Pepe.

[NGTM-1R]

Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"

So basically you're going to blame the father for the son. Gotcha.

[Flipside]

* iamzack pukes all over the thread

This seems to be a favourite activity of yours in any thread.

We get it, you don't like it. This is not the thread you are looking for. Move Along.

[Polpolion]

Yes, the genre of bland characters, cheap plots, and titles ending with "...in SPACE!"

I'd feel bad for saying this, but your arguments are no better: You are stupid. Ergo, you are wrong.

[Flipside]

Well, she's entitled to her opinion, I will say that, and some people may agree with certain aspects, myself included, I can understand why not everyone would enjoy it, but this is a fact that has already been established and Zack has given her reasons why, she's said her piece, and further pissing on the thread is exactly what it appears to be.

[Polpolion]

Well, she's entitled to her opinion, I will say that, and some people may agree with certain aspects, myself included, I can understand why not everyone would enjoy it, but this is a fact that has already been established and Zack has given her reasons why, she's said her piece, and further pissing on the thread is exactly what it appears to be.

I agree. In fact, I have as much of a reason for saying that she's wrong as she gave for Star Wars being terrible. In fact, just as much as she's shown that Star Wars is a terrible movie, I've discredited everything she's ever said! Srsly, her arguments are so woefully underdeveloped that they hardly constitute arguments. It boggles my mind my you would post something with such little substance and expect to be taken serio-

oh

[sayoqod]

Well, she's entitled to her opinion, I will say that, and some people may agree with certain aspects, myself included, I can understand why not everyone would enjoy it, but this is a fact that has already been established and Zack has given her reasons why, she's said her piece, and further pissing on the thread is exactly what it appears to be.

Whoa, comma overload, man