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G-Force is the amount of pressure gravity pushes down on a body with.
In fact, the "G," in G-Force stands for "gravity".
The most common example: a high-preformance jet.
When you pull back on the stick in the jet, you go up, and, since gravity is pulling you downwards at exactly 1 G, your going up in a hard turn presses you down harder, and, therefore, you can get up to the eyeball-popping force ofm about 10 Gs.
Now, without gravity, you would simple stay weightless, don't believe what the ****ty Wing Commander movie tells you :D

 

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Originally posted by Unkown Target
Ahem, ahem....

G-Force is the amount of pressure gravity pushes down on a body with.
In fact, the "G," in G-Force stands for "gravity".
The most common example: a high-preformance jet.
When you pull back on the stick in the jet, you go up, and, since gravity is pulling you downwards at exactly 1 G, your going up in a hard turn presses you down harder, and, therefore, you can get up to the eyeball-popping force ofm about 10 Gs.
Now, without gravity, you would simple stay weightless, don't believe what the ****ty Wing Commander movie tells you :D


Nope. Not true. G-force is the action on a body caused by conservation of momentum.

When you corner in a car quickly you feel a pull sideways opposite to the direction you are steering in. If G-force was infact caused by the Earth's gravity why would it pull you sideways?

What is going on is this. You`re travelling down the road at 70mph. The car is too. When the car suddenly changes direction your body tries to continue in a straight line. Therefore you feel a force pulling you in the direction you were travelling. That's G-force.

Astronauts experience huge G-Forces not because the Earths gravity is pulling on them hard but because they were sitting still when suddenly the rocket around them is trying to accelerate at high speed. The rocket has to push on the pilot hard to keep him sitting in the seat (instead of sinking through it!).

Gravity is a function of mass and the distance from that mass. In the case of a rocket launch the mass of the Earth is staying the same and the rocket is moving AWAY from the centre of mass. So why would the pull of gravity increase?

The confusing thing is that G-force is measured in gravities. Don`t let that confuse you. The force isn`t caused by gravity it's just that saying that you`ve pulled a barrel roll in your fighter jet and experienced the force of 10 Earth Gravities is much easier (and cooler for that matter) than saying you experienced an acceleration of 98 metres per second per second (BTW that wasn`t a typo acceleration is measured in m/s/s).

In space G-forces act in exactly the same way. Although you might be weightless when the ship is sitting still if it starts moving you will feel G-force pulling you in the opposite direction to the one you`re travelling in.
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Is it the movement of the rocket in space which causes the G-Forces or the acceleration (9.8m/s^2 = 1G)?
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Nope. Not true. G-force is the action on a body caused by conservation of momentum.

When you corner in a car quickly you feel a pull sideways opposite to the direction you are steering in. If G-force was infact caused by the Earth's gravity why would it pull you sideways?

What is going on is this. You`re travelling down the road at 70mph. The car is too. When the car suddenly changes direction your body tries to continue in a straight line. Therefore you feel a force pulling you in the direction you were travelling. That's G-force.

Astronauts experience huge G-Forces not because the Earths gravity is pulling on them hard but because they were sitting still when suddenly the rocket around them is trying to accelerate at high speed. The rocket has to push on the pilot hard to keep him sitting in the seat (instead of sinking through it!).

Gravity is a function of mass and the distance from that mass. In the case of a rocket launch the mass of the Earth is staying the same and the rocket is moving AWAY from the centre of mass. So why would the pull of gravity increase?

The confusing thing is that G-force is measured in gravities. Don`t let that confuse you. The force isn`t caused by gravity it's just that saying that you`ve pulled a barrel roll in your fighter jet and experienced the force of 10 Earth Gravities is much easier (and cooler for that matter) than saying you experienced an acceleration of 98 metres per second per second (BTW that wasn`t a typo acceleration is measured in m/s/s).

In space G-forces act in exactly the same way. Although you might be weightless when the ship is sitting still if it starts moving you will feel G-force pulling you in the opposite direction to the one you`re travelling in.  

 That would be centrifical (sure its not spelled right) force.  :D
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Originally posted by Unkown Target
Ahem, ahem....

G-Force is the amount of pressure gravity pushes down on a body with.
In fact, the "G," in G-Force stands for "gravity".
The most common example: a high-preformance jet.
When you pull back on the stick in the jet, you go up, and, since gravity is pulling you downwards at exactly 1 G, your going up in a hard turn presses you down harder, and, therefore, you can get up to the eyeball-popping force ofm about 10 Gs.
Now, without gravity, you would simple stay weightless, don't believe what the ****ty Wing Commander movie tells you :D

Absolutely correct. if there were no gravity, then people would remain weightless and float off the earth. And the salary for many Physicists would probably go down a lot :D
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Originally posted by Tachnyrus
Is it the movement of the rocket in space which causes the G-Forces or the acceleration (9.8m/s^2 = 1G)?


G-Forces are a concequence of acceleration. You can move at any speed without feeling any G-forces as long as you take your time to get to that speed. If you try to accelerate quickly you'll feel the G-force.

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That would be centrifical (sure its not spelled right) force.


Centrifugal force is just a way of thinking of the G-forces experienced by something moving quickly in a circle.
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F=ma, so they are caused by high instantaneous acceleration. ;)

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Centrifugal force is just a way of thinking of the G-forces experienced by something moving quickly in a circle.


Actually that's the centripetal force. :D (net force is directed towards the center)
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Actually that's the centripetal force. :D (net force is directed towards the center)


I know that centripetal force is the correct name but I wasn`t going to further confuse people by explaining why :D
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Well, people's attention span is starting to wander, so, erm, can we agree on something and get back to the ship?:D

 

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Well there is another topic about the same ship :D
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Ok.....

G-forces need gravity!:D

 

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I believe the topic's name was "One More Reason to Dream: GTVX Gorgon Array Cannon" not "G-forces/Gravity. Related?"
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Well, people's attention span is starting to wander, so, erm, can we agree on something and get back to the ship?:D
We agree that you are completely wrong about g-forces. This isn't a matter of opinion... it's a matter of established physics.

Accept this, or we will further confuse you with talk of the difference between zero-G and free fall.
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Accept this, or we will further confuse you with talk of the difference between zero-G and free fall.



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so Inertia (if thats how its spelt) is just the same/by product of G-force?
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Has similar traits to that of a Bentusi trading station yes:jaw:


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Has similar traits to that of a Bentusi trading station yes:jaw:


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Just without the kick-ass beams! :D
Spoon - I stand in awe by your flawless fredding. Truely, never before have I witnessed such magnificant display of beamz.
Axem -  I don't know what I'll do with my life now. Maybe I'll become a Nun, or take up Macrame. But where ever I go... I will remember you!
Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
Nuclear1 - I want a duet.
AndrewofDoom - Make it a trio!

 

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Zylon, I know what I'm talking about. You need gravity for g-forces.
Think about it; how could you be pulled downwards, without gravity?


Anyways, it looks like a Bentusi ship, because it was based on Bentusi technology.

 
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G-force as commonly believed is NOT caused by gravity, gravity only contributes to it. Mass x (Gravity + Acceleration)= the force you feel. If gravity is zero you still have acceleration contributing to the G-force because you end up with Mass x (Acceleration). So you can still feel force from acceleration in space. Why do you think astronauts go through G-force training if they're going into space. :p :p
EDIT: By the way i'm 12 and I know this shouldn't most of you know that too by now?
EDIT2: And G-force does stand for Gravity force. This is because when you pull 2 G's you are experiencing a force similar to the force of 2x earths gravity (1 G)
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