And today I resurrected the M/S Sidewinder. dam glad I put it in a bag and box before burying it, the brand new logitech started making a click sound that I could feel in the stick, so I exit Freespace and go to the calibration program to see what the heck is up, yaw was good, roll was good, but pitch had a click, no movement on the screen so i figure with, I start playing Freespace again and what do ya know it was a crack in the handle, I pulled up slightly and the whole hand grip snaps off the base.
I really wish M/S still made the sidewinder cause obviously Logitech is crap. I'm gonna check over at CH products and see if they have any reasonable sticks with a twist grip.