[vonhertell999]

ok, i downloaded freespace open for mac, and in the mediaVPs_3612 theres files with just a regular name e.g "MV_animglows" and files with different names e.g. "MV_animglows.3612". are these files different? do i need to install both types for it to work properly? also, when i run a mod, like blueplanet, with vps, it will usually crash, particularly around shivan fighters, mostly aeshemas and dragons. i tried running it with MV_root, but its so laggy the game wont even load, but with MV_root.3612 the game runs fine, exept the vasdan hapsursut class destroyer wont show up, it just laggs until crashing if that ships even in the level. any help? i would love to run blueplanet but its kind of hard when you cant get within two clicks of shivan ships  , my computer is a macintosh G5 10.5 non intel based.

[General Battuta]

The .3612 files are patches, you should keep both them and the regular versions (so you should have both MV_animglows and MV_animglows.3612).

Let's see if we can help out with your other problems. Please generate a debug log as described in the Troubleshooting FAQ pinned here on the Support forum, then post it up for us to read.

[vonhertell999]

here you are good sir:

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About to page in ships!
Paging in mission messages
Stopping model page in...
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ANI 2_Loading.ani with size 824x43 (32.8% wasted)
=================== ENDING LOAD ================
Real count = 241,  Estimated count = 425
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Received post for event GS_EVENT_START_BRIEFING during state transtition. Find Allender if you are unsure if this is bad.
Got event GS_EVENT_START_BRIEFING (15) in state GS_STATE_START_GAME (52)
ANI iconwing01 with size 32x28 (12.5% wasted)
ANI iconfighter01 with size 32x28 (12.5% wasted)
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ANI iconCrossbow with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI iconTrebuchet with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted)
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ANI iconEMPulse with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 15.097 (15.097)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.559 (0.559)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.643 (0.643)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.395 (0.395)
Got event GS_EVENT_SHIP_SELECTION (13) in state GS_STATE_BRIEFING (10)
ANI iconfighter01.ani with size 32x28 (12.5% wasted)
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Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.585 (0.585)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.472 (0.472)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.330 (0.330)
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Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.463 (0.463)
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Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.597 (0.597)
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Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.323 (0.323)
ANI iconbonusarty.ani with size 32x28 (12.5% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.399 (0.399)
ANI iconbomber04.ani with size 32x28 (12.5% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.689 (0.689)
ANI iconbomber05.ani with size 32x28 (12.5% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.487 (0.487)
Got event GS_EVENT_WEAPON_SELECTION (21) in state GS_STATE_SHIP_SELECT (11)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.361 (0.361)
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Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.369 (0.369)
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Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.524 (0.524)
ANI iconPromS.ani with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted)
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Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.722 (0.722)
Loading model 'bomber05.pof'
IBX: Starting a new IBX for 'bomber05.pof'.
Submodel 'bomber05c-body' is detail level 2 of 'bomber05a-body'
Submodel 'bomber05d-body' is detail level 3 of 'bomber05a-body'
Submodel 'bomber05b-body' is detail level 1 of 'bomber05a-body'
Submodel 'b05-turretb' is detail level 1 of 'b05-turreta'
Submodel 'b05-turretb-destroyed' is detail level 1 of 'b05-turreta-destroyed'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster02c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster02b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster02a'
Got event GS_EVENT_ENTER_GAME (2) in state GS_STATE_WEAPON_SELECT (16)
Entering game at time = 314.233
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ANI shield-b05.ani with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted)
Frame  1 too long!!: frametime = 0.836 (0.836)
Frame 100 too long!!: frametime = 0.665 (0.665)
Frame 115 too long!!: frametime = 0.828 (0.828)
Killing beam at initial fire because of illegal targeting!!!
Frame 127 too long!!: frametime = 0.702 (0.702)
Frame 135 too long!!: frametime = 0.789 (0.789)
Frame 186 too long!!: frametime = 0.785 (0.785)
Frame 197 too long!!: frametime = 0.787 (0.787)
Frame 279 too long!!: frametime = 0.559 (0.559)
Frame 299 too long!!: frametime = 0.623 (0.623)
Frame 336 too long!!: frametime = 0.341 (0.341)
Frame 362 too long!!: frametime = 0.544 (0.544)
Killing beam at initial fire because of illegal targeting!!!
Frame 618 too long!!: frametime = 0.597 (0.597)
Frame 698 too long!!: frametime = 0.677 (0.677)
Got event GS_EVENT_PLAYER_WARPOUT_START (41) in state GS_STATE_GAME_PLAY (2)
Beam couldn't find a good object model/type!! (0)
Frame 828 too long!!: frametime = 0.774 (0.774)
Frame 843 too long!!: frametime = 0.780 (0.780)
Beam couldn't find a good object model/type!! (0)
Beam couldn't find a good object model/type!! (0)
Frame 923 too long!!: frametime = 0.749 (0.749)
Got event GS_EVENT_PLAYER_WARPOUT_DONE_STAGE1 (44) in state GS_STATE_GAME_PLAY (2)
Hit target speed.  Starting warp effect and moving to stage 2!
1112 frames executed in  30.015 seconds,  37.048 frames per second.
Frame 1253 too long!!: frametime = 0.696 (0.696)
Got event GS_EVENT_PLAYER_WARPOUT_DONE_STAGE2 (45) in state GS_STATE_GAME_PLAY (2)
Hit warp effect.  Moving to stage 3!
Got event GS_EVENT_PLAYER_WARPOUT_DONE (46) in state GS_STATE_GAME_PLAY (2)
Player warped out.  Going to debriefing!
Got event GS_EVENT_DEBRIEF (33) in state GS_STATE_GAME_PLAY (2)
Unloading in mission messages
Storing stats now
Frame 1488 too long!!: frametime = 7.043 (7.043)
Got event GS_EVENT_QUIT_GAME (5) in state GS_STATE_DEBRIEF (27)
WARNING: VRAM is at -1594572 instead of zero after flushing!
Freeing all existing models...
... Log closed, Tue Jan 25 10:53:40 2011
 

[General Battuta]

Hrm, that doesn't look like the whole log. Could you copy the whole file into a pastebin at pastebin.com, then link it here? We need to see the beginning in particular.

[vonhertell999]

oh sure, sorry

heres the link: http://pastebin.com/0ZCs3a02

[General Battuta]

Well, for starters, I don't see the MVPs being loaded in that log - if you generate a log with the MVPs selected as your mod it'll give us more of an idea of what's going on.

But I do see one problem - please use the launcher to change your color depth from 16 bit to 32 bit. Does that help at all?

[vonhertell999]

how would i do that? i have soulstorms osx launcher

wait i got it, nevermind

no, it crashed when i engaged the aeshamas. the last log i ran was the game running blueplanet with the files in a folder and the media vps in the same folder.

[General Battuta]

No, it wasn't - your last log showed an empty command line, so no mods were loaded (including the MVPs.) Generate another log with the above conditions and post it - just select the debug build in the launcher, select BP as a mod, and run.

[vonhertell999]

sorry a response took so long, i had been trying to make freespace work on my windows, but i gave up and trashed the game. so im back on my mac, now my debug log problem, i cant find the log, its not located anywhere, i searched the entire hard drive