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Offline Kszyhu

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If this site is to be trusted: http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/44011/dragon-age-ii/ , they have sold over 1 million copies (on all platforms) anyway. I don't know what are 'good sales' right now, but in the past 1 mil was quite a noticeable milestone.

 

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If this site is to be trusted: http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/44011/dragon-age-ii/ , they have sold over 1 million copies (on all platforms) anyway. I don't know what are 'good sales' right now, but in the past 1 mil was quite a noticeable milestone.

It's underperforming DA:O's sales so far, and massively underperforming their targets.

 

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Can't blame them for making a sucker game, they rushed it out right?

Nononono...wait, I could... well that only if I had at least bought it, but it's not the case. The demo was enough for me to decide.
And that ME2 move is a good thing at least they are doing something about it... bad luck for the fellows that already have ME2 or bought it after the 30th.
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It's underperforming DA:O's sales so far, and massively underperforming their targets.

I know, but at least it isn't a total failure. I just hope that Bioware will use some of the negative feedback, instead of dismissing it as trolling.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Well if it is such a massive failure, I'm sure Bioware is quite aware of it.

I just hope they won't **** ME3 too. I'm not such a fan of DA, but I kinda fear these things...

 

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Given that ME is developed by a different crew working under different constraints, I think we can still safely look forward to ME3. Also, they had pretty much the same amount of time they had to work on ME2, so....
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If this site is to be trusted: http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/44011/dragon-age-ii/ , they have sold over 1 million copies (on all platforms) anyway. I don't know what are 'good sales' right now, but in the past 1 mil was quite a noticeable milestone.

Not reliable. Wikipedia elaborates:
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While referenced in reliable sources, site's own methods of extrapolation and adjustment without source referral mean site is possibly unreliable by a large margin in estimates.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18919 <-- method analysis.

 
Okay, so, DA2 is _such_ a flop that EA has decided to give everyone who bought it before April 30th a free copy of Mass Effect 2. As consolation prizes go, that's rather decent.

Methinks it's more of a ME3 marketing thing.

 

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To be fair, DAII was targeted at consoles as much as it was PC, so it's not fair to cut out console sales. Doesn't mean that DA2 isn't failing hard, just not that dramatically.

 

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No, what you see there is the effect of the rather mediocre press DA2 has been getting. It didn't take long for people who previously thought that DA2 is a must-have title to come to the conclusion that they'll rather wait until it's in a Steam sale or something; offering additional incentives to buy it by bundling it with one of the most critically acclaimed and successful titles ever (which, while still current, is also at the end of its shelf life and about to get moved to the "EA Classics" line) really does make sense. And by making the offer retroactive, they appease the crowd at least partially. All in all, this is a rather clever marketing move.
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To be fair, DAII was targeted at consoles as much as it was PC, so it's not fair to cut out console sales. Doesn't mean that DA2 isn't failing hard, just not that dramatically.

no, this are numbers per week, excluding Japan - for consoles. At least I think they are.
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No, it is excluding Japan and consoles.  Still for PC sales worldwide, it sucks.
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Offline Luis Dias

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I'd like to see a chart with *all* sales combined, so we can have a better picture of what it means to "fail".

 

Offline Mr. Vega

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It's underperforming DA:O's sales so far, and massively underperforming their targets.

I know, but at least it isn't a total failure. I just hope that Bioware will use some of the negative feedback, instead of dismissing it as trolling.
They won't dismiss it their sales are down. This will turn a lot of heads at Bioware for certain.
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Offline newman

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Ok, so I finally got around to play this.
Gameplay style: For all it's faults, Dragon Age: Origins knew what it was - a RPG. I get the feeling DA2 doesn't really know what it is and got stuck between being an arcade game and a FPS - not being really good at either. It's playable, but nothing more than that; the game feels more like they re-skinned Jade Empire into a Dragon Age theme than made a new Dragon Age game. Any fault with Jade Empire can be partially excused since it's pretty old by now, though - DA2 doesn't have that excuse. In addition, the waves of enemies thingie is just horrible, with enemies spawning out of nowhere just so you can kill 30 of them inside 5 minutes making fights too long and boring.
Plot: Could have been epic but fell short. Too many rushed shortcuts resulting in plot holes. On the plus side the game doesn't feel incomplete without DLCs the way Mafia 2 did; there's no obvious "cut out content, pay extra later for it" parts. As it is, the plot simply fails to drag me in and produce the "I want to play just a bit longer to see what happens next" factor.
Companions: Some good ones but overall I couldn't care less about most of them as they tend to be boring. Yes, Fenris and Anders, I'm talking about you - you two are the worst. On the plus side, some of the side dialogue between Isabella, Aveline and Merill can be hilarious at times.
Side Quests: Worst case of Bioware Meaningless Side Quest Syndrome I saw in a long time; they take the concept of generic to a whole new level. Rushed, short, mostly not even worth reading what they're about as they tend to consist of going to quest giver, proceeding to target which you have to kill/talk to/talk to then kill/, and then proceeding back to get your reward. Even worse are ones where you just find some item you simply need to give to someone marked on the map. Anyone saying Mass Effect had rushed and bad side quests should try this out and you'll see that Mass Effect ones are all literary masterpieces in comparison. The game shipped with some side quests bugged too, but those things tend to be patched up so it's not a major concern, more a symptom of this game's biggest problem, the fact it was an obvious rush job.
Overall, my general impression is that the game is playable but there's a notable decline in quality compared to other Bioware games recently. It's borderline boring in some segments; Deus Ex 2 finally got a companion in the "How Not To Do Sequels" category.
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Offline Luis Dias

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It's underperforming DA:O's sales so far, and massively underperforming their targets.


I know, but at least it isn't a total failure. I just hope that Bioware will use some of the negative feedback, instead of dismissing it as trolling.
They won't dismiss it their sales are down. This will turn a lot of heads at Bioware for certain.

In one of the latest interviews, Bioware actually told the interviewer that DA2 is outselling DA.

 
Well, I doubt they'd admit the problems, at the least until they start hyping DA3 (With good or bad reasons/results). I guess that's how it works with marketing too - the game is still full priced and all.
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Offline mxlm

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In one of the latest interviews, Bioware actually told the interviewer that DA2 is outselling DA.
Link? Or at least the name of the publication?
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