[Bobboau]

lolchange 

OMG you believed him!?!

[General Battuta]

Aw bro that's not cool 

[Bobboau]

"The bottom line is that it affirms the Bush Administration policy that our government has the right to detain dangerous terrorists until the cessation of hostilities."

whether you agree with the policy or not you cannot argue with the truth of this particular statement.


awe damn he is one-termiest president in the history of the multiverse. I don't see how he hopes to even with the nomination at this point.

[Nuke]

i neither believed in nor liked the idea of change, and thats why i voted for mccain.

[Solatar]

Yes we can! But that doesn't necessarily mean we're GOING to. . .

^^the source eludes me.

[Nuclear1]

[redsniper]

Vote lost.

[Solatar]

Vote lost.

Even if he ends up running against Sarah Palin?

[Kosh]

lolchange 

OMG you believed him!?!

I'm not surprised. As soon as he started wavering on shutting the damn thing down I knew he was full of ****.

[Mars]

Wasn't a big thing to me either way, so I'm not too worried. Would vote again, no better alternatives.

[Bobboau]

and that's why there never will be.

[Mars]

No, there never will be because the country was never laid out to make it feasible.

[Mikes]

"The bottom line is that it affirms the Bush Administration policy that our government has the right to detain dangerous terrorists until the cessation of hostilities."

whether you agree with the policy or not you cannot argue with the truth of this particular statement.

Really? So just let me ask... the "cessation of hostilities"... when is that gonna be?

The "truth" in this statement might as well read like:  "We still like to be able to lock up anyone  for as long as we like, k thx bye".

[Dilmah G]

To be honest, I think closing Gitmo is the wrong move anyway. If you close her, the stuff that goes on inside may as well just carry on somewhere else that we won't know about for a few years. What ultimately matters is the rules inside the facility, and IMO, Obama is just sidestepping the issue by even saying he would close the facility in the first place.

Either way, this seems like a bit of a step backwards, among other things.

[Nuclear1]

If you close her, the stuff that goes on inside may as well just carry on somewhere else that we won't know about for a few years. 

All of the detainees were supposed to be transferred to a new supermax facility in Illinois, and the military tribunals were supposed to end with that.

The point of closing Gitmo was less to end what happened inside than it was to end that blight on American history.

[Dilmah G]

Ah, okay.

[JCDNWarrior]

Wasn't a big thing to me either way, so I'm not too worried. Would vote again, no better alternatives.

There are better alternatives; Just make sure to do some research on the candidates. I think my own favorite will run again for 2012. Practically everyone else is just status-quo though.

And ah, things like the closing of gitmo, bringing back troops, and such; Obama's campaign assured their, benefactors, that it was just 'campaign rhetoric'. Shame.

[Lucika]

lolchange 

OMG you believed him!?!

I'm not surprised. As soon as he started wavering on shutting the damn thing down I knew he was full of ****.

I am not sure how you were with that, but many, many people had a reverse racism effect... Obama wasn't a politician in their eyes but a black guy (who we wooowooo consider equal). It worked fantastically for him.

[General Battuta]

lolchange 

OMG you believed him!?!

I'm not surprised. As soon as he started wavering on shutting the damn thing down I knew he was full of ****.

I am not sure how you were with that, but many, many people had a reverse racism effect... Obama wasn't a politician in their eyes but a black guy (who we wooowooo consider equal). It worked fantastically for him.

Cite that right now. I want poll data, Bradley effect factoring and proof you're not bull****ting, because you're bull****ting.

[StarSlayer]

For ****s and giggles I'll play devil's advocate.

I don't have particular transparency on the demographics of the detainees but I'll assume a goodly portion of them are not Joe **** the conscript that you can just send home and he goes back to farming poppy and thats that.  I figure that quite a few are real zeal and steel dyed in the wool bamf jihadists.  You cut them loose they're going to go back to the business of trying to attacking the West.  If they pose a clear danger to this nation's citizens what exactly do you propose we do with them other then keep them locked up?