[Max Sterling]

Im having the issue that user made cap ships end up being fly thru... UNLESS I have them jump in at 1 second into the mission. If they jump in anytime during the mission, they are ok. But if they start out there, it doesnt work. So... any suggestions? What can I do here?



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[Nephilim]

I have the same problem, that and the fact that user made ships seem to push other user made ships, like i can push any user made capital ship with a kato or a ferret, or whatever, it's really annoying, since of mission i have u defending a ship and damn AI slams into the hull knocking huge ships around like paper  

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[Max Sterling]

wow... thats strange I didnt notice that happening. But at least you can do what I said and have them jump in at 1 sec.  



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[Kazan]

_PLEASE_ tell me they're one's compiled by cob2fs2!

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[Kazan]

ok max told me they were done with cob2fs2

that is your problem - to fix the pushing around open them up in PCS and change the mass in HDR2.. the fly through is bounding problems

[Max Sterling]

ok. how do you fix the bounding problems? or is that something you are still working on?  



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[Unidan]

Ask Woomiester, he had the same problem.

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[Woomeister]

I lowered the poly count, it fixed it for me.

[Bobboau]

do they have LOD and debris, that seems to fix it often for me.

 are they made of of mulatlbe subobjects?

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[KillMeNow]

for the pushing around you checked hte mass in the tables if the person writing the tables forgot then it wieghts no moare than afighter and can be pushed by one

[Shrike]

No, mass is defined in the pof itself.

[KillMeNow]

you sure? then whats the mass in the table for?

[KillMeNow]

i remmeber my death star got pushed by debris from a sathanus it blew up - i had just used the fenrs table entry for a basic start and but when i put the mass up it didn't budge

[Shrike]

There is no mass value in the .tbl.  

[KillMeNow]

arghh i ment density

[Sushi]

There is no mass factor in the ships TBL, but there is a density factor. How they are related and work in game is somewhat of a mystery to me.

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[Eternal One]

Max, recompile the .pof with the newest pof cs, that solved it for us and it'll prolly solve it for you. Cob2fs2 doesn't write the bsp output right, pof cs is much better.

And the object's mass is in the .pof files itself, $density-token isn't mass. Though they are connected: the more an object has density, the more "bouncy" the collisions are. V used density set to other than 1 on large bombers, that's probably because the mass calculation algorithm gives them relatively large mass and they wanted the collisions to be like fighter vs. fighter.

[Warlock]

A simple way is use the new modelview's POF edittor and change the mass there. If I recall it's on the first tab in the POF edittor options.

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[Grunt]

The fly through stuff also happens with V models. I have recently been playing around with docking. It seems that the GTT Argo goes through the hull of a Deimos, whenever it is docking.  

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