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Offline Scotty

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A KT needs 7,65 seconds to blow up a Sherman (2 shots from the 88), while a Sherman needs 19 seconds to fire 6 times, using the 75 mm gun.
That's about 2,5 times longer.

It also takes a Sherman an infinite amount of time to destroy a KT if the two meet head on.


That's the difference between a Tier 5 tank and a Tier 8 tank.  Go ahead and take your Tier 2 tank against a Tier 5 tank.  If anything, you'll have less of a chance.

 

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If you think the armor on a King Tiger is amazing...

...The armor on the Jagdtiger was rediculous.

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Have you seen the Maus?

I've seen one anihilate almost the entire team.
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Then the entire team was full of idiots and deserved it.  Maus may be large, but it's not the best T10, or even in the running for it.

 

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If you think the armor on a King Tiger is amazing...

...The armor on the Jagdtiger was rediculous.

:blah:

Only in a bad way. The JT is actually the worst of the Tier 9 TDs in the game, and can be frontally penetrated with some regularity by Tier 7 guns on a significant portion of its surface. I've done it with both American and French 90s and the German long 88.
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The ****? That's the last area you should be able to pentrate the Jagdtiger. The source I've got lists the armor as being up to 9.8 inches thick at the front!

(edit: this is the superstructure armor. I'm not sure about the lower armor regions, or if a shot trap is the concern here. Otherwise, I blame the Russians.)
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Part of it is by comparison. The other Tier 9s currently in the game are the T95 (which is the only thing in the game whose front armor is truly inviolate against AP as far as I can tell), and the Object 704 (which has sexy sexy slope of 45 degrees or better and moves around a lot faster than other two), and the T30 (which has a full turret and a similar amount of armor on the top bits).

The other part is, as you guessed, it's mounted on a Tiger I chassis despite having a giant casemate on top, and the Tiger chassis is actually pretty high so it's hard to get a hull-down.
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Yeah, you can pen it easy from the front with a Long 88 if you hit anywhere on the bottom third.

 

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Part of it is by comparison. The other Tier 9s currently in the game are the T95 (which is the only thing in the game whose front armor is truly inviolate against AP as far as I can tell), and the Object 704 (which has sexy sexy slope of 45 degrees or better and moves around a lot faster than other two), and the T30 (which has a full turret and a similar amount of armor on the top bits).

The other part is, as you guessed, it's mounted on a Tiger I chassis despite having a giant casemate on top, and the Tiger chassis is actually pretty high so it's hard to get a hull-down.

Why the hell is it on a Tiger 1 chassis? The Jagdtiger was a tank hunting variant of the King Tiger!!!
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Why the hell is it on a Tiger 1 chassis? The Jagdtiger was a tank hunting variant of the King Tiger!!!

It's not. (I screwed up, but then I think WG or somebody did as well since I remember seeing that in connection with the game.) But armor was removed from the chassis to compensate somewhat for weight gain on the casemate, and the initial suspension system proved inadequate so the final model had a different, slightly higher suspension that further exposed the body and the vulnerable lower glacis.

(If you want a German tank without a lower glacis that is vulnerable, get an E-75. It really pisses people off.)
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Lol, the E75 has one big weakspot and it is his lower front plate, if you don't angle it, you're screwed.
And every one of the 60 or so build Jagdtigers were build on a Tiger2 chassis and there was no gun in WW2 which could penetrate the front armour of that beast. Side armour...thats a different matter.
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There's actually no such thing as Russian bias, bro. Most German tanks (aside from the E-100) are fine, same with American tanks, and the Russian line has a lot of ****ty tanks in it.
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T10 Mediums and TDs announced.

I am interested in this, how easy is it to pick up and play for the first time?  Am I just going to be murderated starting out?

Out of curiosity if they are adding T-62s and Pattons shouldn't they start using contemporary NATO vehicles for Germany and France like the Leopard and AMX-30?  Most late war drawing board Reich tanks struck me as being for the most part easier to manufacture versions of their current line up rather than technological leaps beyond the Panthers, Tiger IIs.  Certainly not anything that could stand up against PACT or NATO armor.

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The game is tiered, so you start at Tier 1 and play against only other Tier 1s and Tier 2 tanks.  The higher tier you get, the higher tiers you fight.  They've also recently (last couple patches) added a tutorial system for new players that gives you a free Tier 3 premium tank if you complete it.

It's a grinding game, though, so be properly warned of that to begin with.

 

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Out of curiosity if they are adding T-62s and Pattons shouldn't they start using contemporary NATO vehicles for Germany and France like the Leopard and AMX-30? 

The T-62 here appears to be the prototype version you can see in Kubinka rather than the one you'd actually see in the wild, and thus might actually be a contemporary to the tanks mentioned. (Note the small gun.)

The moving the French tanks up a tier was a clever method of nerfing them, and they probably needed it, but it's going to suck a lot of fun out of driving my AMX 13s.

EDIT: Apparently the Leopard 1 is in fact planned, though.
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There's actually no such thing as Russian bias, bro. Most German tanks (aside from the E-100) are fine, same with American tanks, and the Russian line has a lot of ****ty tanks in it.
There definitely was a large amount of Russian bias during the beta
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The moving the French tanks up a tier was a clever method of nerfing them, and they probably needed it, but it's going to suck a lot of fun out of driving my AMX 13s.

Going up tiers means more health, though, so that 13 90 is going to be even more of a pain to kill.

 
A KT needs 7,65 seconds to blow up a Sherman (2 shots from the 88), while a Sherman needs 19 seconds to fire 6 times, using the 75 mm gun.
That's about 2,5 times longer.

It also takes a Sherman an infinite amount of time to destroy a KT if the two meet head on.



That's the difference between a Tier 5 tank and a Tier 8 tank.  Go ahead and take your Tier 2 tank against a Tier 5 tank.  If anything, you'll have less of a chance.


In 6 shots a 75 mm Sherman does on average 660 damage. A King Tiger has 1500 HP (1600 with turret upgrade).
If the difference was 2 shots anywhere vs 6 from flanks/rear, I'd probably never bring up the topic.
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King Tiger was a monster. I know people yell "balance", but I prefer historicly accurate balance..
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I think the question you should ask yourself is : is it a game or is it a simulator.

If #1, then screw historical accuracy. If #2, then screw balance.
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