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Offline WMCoolmon

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on: May 12, 2002, 02:14:06 am
Well, I was browsing the Dropshipcommand forums when I saw these images, made in Truespace. I figured you guys might be interested in them :D
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Offline Gortef

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Reply #1 on: May 12, 2002, 04:57:40 am
you know you can make good renders with Ts if you know how to use it, that's the problem

(at least that's the problem here :D)



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Offline Zeronet

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Reply #2 on: May 12, 2002, 07:00:17 am
But how do i use it(i can make models but thats it)?! GMAX makes no sense at all either.
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Offline Nico

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Reply #3 on: May 12, 2002, 08:22:23 am
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Originally posted by Zeronet
But how do i use it(i can make models but thats it)?! GMAX makes no sense at all either.
As ryx said, do the tutorials. If they don't make any sense for you, well, dunno, try knitting, it might fit your skills more :p
Anyway, you won't make renders with Gmax, it's not its purpose, and the renderer has been removed.
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Offline CP5670

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Reply #4 on: May 12, 2002, 11:46:36 am
If you really have mad skillz, you should be able to make that stuff in Paint. :D

Seriously, I think any program is capable of making good stuff if the user is talented; main differences are the interface systems which are a matter of preference.
 

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Reply #5 on: May 12, 2002, 02:00:41 pm
:jaw: :jaw:
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Reply #6 on: May 13, 2002, 07:11:05 pm
you guys just dont know when to post on a good topic
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Offline CP5670

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Reply #7 on: May 13, 2002, 07:16:14 pm
That's because we are all busy either arguing about religion in that big topic, or spamming. :D :D
 

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Reply #8 on: May 13, 2002, 07:36:51 pm
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That's because we are all busy either arguing about religion in that big topic, or spamming. :D :D


Hehe - it still isn't as big as that road trip topic - yet. :D
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Offline Bobboau

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Reply #9 on: May 13, 2002, 08:24:11 pm
you know, they can't be useing default shaders, and there has to be some sort of volumetric plugin un use,
and those are some DETAILED models, geometry of such wonderus complecity it brings a tear to my eye, :)  :(
ughh... wait a second, these arn't tears :nervous:
this is blood,
blood?...
aghhh  my eyes are bleeding !!!!
MY EYES ARE BLEEDING AAAAHHRRGGGgggggggggg!!!!!!!
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Offline IceFire

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Reply #10 on: May 13, 2002, 08:37:45 pm
LOL :D
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Reply #11 on: May 13, 2002, 10:05:23 pm
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Originally posted by Bobboau
you know, they can't be useing default shaders, and there has to be some sort of volumetric plugin un use,
and those are some DETAILED models, geometry of such wonderus complecity it brings a tear to my eye, :)  :(
ughh... wait a second, these arn't tears :nervous:
this is blood,
blood?...
aghhh  my eyes are bleeding !!!!
MY EYES ARE BLEEDING AAAAHHRRGGGgggggggggg!!!!!!!


Truespace 4 and 5 have volumetrics built in. TS4 added a proper shader interface and TS5 improved upon it. Its still not a very good shader interface, but at least its reasonably extensible.
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Offline Bobboau

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Reply #12 on: May 13, 2002, 10:56:44 pm
well I know ts4 has volumetric fog, but other than that i am unaware of anything else,
but I'm sure someone could do something with it's SDK
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Reply #13 on: May 14, 2002, 07:37:40 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
ughh... wait a second, these arn't tears :nervous:
this is blood,
blood?...
aghhh  my eyes are bleeding !!!!
MY EYES ARE BLEEDING AAAAHHRRGGGgggggggggg!!!!!!!


:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

Offline Stryke 9

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Reply #14 on: May 14, 2002, 08:29:13 am
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Originally posted by CP5670
That's because we are all busy either arguing about religion in that big topic, or spamming. :D :D


You act like they're mutually exclusive.:p

Yes, TS is bad. You can still do cool stuff with it, but like CP said, it's possible to do amazing things in Paint as well. The question is how easily it does it, how well it ports stuff, what its texturing engine, etc. can do... things like that. Not irreplaceable, but they make life a hell of a lot easier. Compare Photoshop and Paint- I've seen crap done in Photoshop, and great stuff done in the little pixel-pusher programs, but I'd take photoshop any day, even if it is blitheringly complicated on the advanced levels.
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Reply #15 on: May 14, 2002, 10:10:15 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
you know, they can't be useing default shaders, and there has to be some sort of volumetric plugin un use,
and those are some DETAILED models, geometry of such wonderus complecity it brings a tear to my eye, :)  :(
ughh... wait a second, these arn't tears :nervous:
this is blood,
blood?...
aghhh  my eyes are bleeding !!!!
MY EYES ARE BLEEDING AAAAHHRRGGGgggggggggg!!!!!!!

 
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Offline Zeronet

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Reply #16 on: May 14, 2002, 10:27:53 am
I tried the volumetrics but i couldnt get it to work.
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Reply #17 on: May 14, 2002, 04:53:37 pm
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I tried the volumetrics but i couldnt get it to work.


IIRC you have to enable it for each light, as well as in the rendering options.... erm... what the heck is that thing that shows up when you right-click on the render button?!

Oh, yeah - Palette! :D ;)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

Offline Bobboau

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Reply #18 on: May 14, 2002, 09:01:59 pm
(in ts4) it's the render controle, lets you enable the render quality, the antialiasing level background/forgournd and toggles for raytraceing (reflaections) and raycasting (transparency)
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Offline CP5670

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Reply #19 on: May 14, 2002, 09:20:28 pm
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Hehe - it still isn't as big as that road trip topic - yet. :D


Come to think of it, where did that topic go? It is not sticky anymore and I cannot find it in the topic listings. Did someone finally delete it once and for all? :D

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this is blood,
blood?...
aghhh my eyes are bleeding !!!!
MY EYES ARE BLEEDING AAAAHHRRGGGgggggggggg!!!!!!!


:wtf: :D :D :lol:

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You act like they're mutually exclusive. :p


Okay, we are all busy spamming in the religion topic. :D
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