[Azrael]

wahts a good language for a complete noob in puter programming to start off looking into??

[Zeronet]

PHP is one of them. C+ etc etc.

[CP5670]

C++ is probably a good one to start learning, since it is used so widely today. (in the source code as well ) That is the one I am working on; with a book on the subject along with the plethora of tutorials on the internet, it is pretty easy.

[Bobboau]

oh, yes C++ is the perfict language for complete noobs
if you could not tell that was sarcastic
try BASIC

[an0n]

ASM. If you can master that, learning others will be a piece of piss.

[CP5670]

oh, yes C++ is the perfict language for complete noobs
if you could not tell that was sarcastic
try BASIC

Actually it's not all that hard compared to some others, if a bit awkward at times. I am not quite sure why so many people say that Visual Basic is much easier than C++; they seem to be of about the same difficulty in my opinion, just with different syntax conventions.

ASM. If you can master that, learning others will be a piece of piss.

This is probably my favorite one due to its very precise nature, but I have heard that it is a bit harder than C++. I would like to try some stuff out with this, though.

[Azrael]

Originally posted by an0n
ASM. If you can master that, learning others will be a piece of piss.

 

i take it that means Assembly??? i might try out that and C++ just tp taste waht its like

[an0n]

Originally posted by CP5670
This is probably my favorite one due to its very precise nature, but I have heard that it is a bit harder than C++. I would like to try some stuff out with this, though.

A BIT! It's about two steps away from being 0's and 1's. Thing is though, it will only do what you specifically tell it to do, so no crappy compiling protocols changing what you meant it to do.

[CP5670]

A BIT! It's about two steps away from being 0's and 1's. Thing is though, it will only do what you specifically tell it to do, so no crappy compiling protocols changing what you meant it to do.

That's exactly what makes it so simple; the commands are pretty much mathematically precise, so it's easy to get it to do what you want based on logical and math constructs.

[an0n]

Originally posted by CP5670


That's exactly what makes it so simple; the commands are pretty much mathematically precise, so it's easy to get it to do what you want based on logical and math constructs.

Yeah, but never try and do anything with it unless you've got an interrupt list handy.

[an0n]

And Azrael:
http://www.hack3r.com
(oooh, they've remodelled)
They seem to have taken the ASM tutorial out of the library but their forums (and the forumites therein) should have something on just about every language.

[CP5670]

Yeah, but never try and do anything with it unless you've got an interrupt list handy.

That's true, but that is more of a syntax thing than the actual programming procedures.

[Azrael]

thamks abunch anOn:D:D will look into this looks nice:D:D:D

[Ulundel]

First I ask you not to throw any rocks at me when I'm finished...

If you're a complete n00b don't start to mess with C++ (as Bobboau said, in HIS way ). First try to create a very professional webpage with scripting and all, then move on to basic, and THEN C++.

I'm completing my basic BASIC course and doin' very well

[an0n]

Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
First I ask you not to throw any rocks at me when I'm finished...

If you're a complete n00b don't start to mess with C++ (as Bobboau said, in HIS way ). First try to create a very professional webpage with scripting and all, then move on to basic, and THEN C++.

I'm completing my basic BASIC course and doin' very well

Bah! I went: HTML, basic Javascript, everything. I know a bit about just about every language out there (although unfortunately, not enough of any one )

[Ulundel]

And I know how to screw everything up...

[Styxx]

Originally posted by CP5670
That's exactly what makes it so simple; the commands are pretty much mathematically precise, so it's easy to get it to do what you want based on logical and math constructs.

Ha. Ha. Ha. That shows you never tried to program in assembly.

The simpler the structures and commands you have at your disposal, the more complex a program will be to create the same result. Assembler is simple to grasp and very simple to program, but creating anything complex with it is an exercise in futility. Of course, you can employ it to augment performance on punctual, simple pieces of code (like pixel transfer procedures), but writing a complete program - and by program I mean an actual application, with practical purposes - takes too long to say the least.

If you want a good language that's becoming the industry's standard, is easy to learn, extremely powerful and will run virtually on any machine, go for Java.

[CP5670]

The thing I don't like about Java is that the programs run somewhat slowly and can become large in size.

The simpler the structures and commands you have at your disposal, the more complex a program will be to create the same result. Assembler is simple to grasp and very simple to program, but creating anything complex with it is an exercise in futility. Of course, you can employ it to augment performance on punctual, simple pieces of code (like pixel transfer procedures), but writing a complete program - and by program I mean an actual application, with practical purposes - takes too long to say the least.

Yes, but a complex program isn't all that complex if it is simply made by thousands of compounded simple logic commands. I guess math nuts find it easy.

[an0n]

Tada! ASM tut.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~smit/asm01001.htm

[Corsair]

Well, supposedly BASIC is a very easy language to learn. The n00b parts of it are, but I found it a little more complicated after that. I'd say try it first though.