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Offline MP-Ryan

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Re: Some tough questions for the green movement from an environmental journalist
* MP-Ryan reads Mustang's tongue-in-cheek post and decides to abandon thread before it becomes too dense to escape it's gravitational pull.
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Re: Some tough questions for the green movement from an environmental journalist
Surprised Hera never responded even though I more or less argued against prop #2 in an earlier post. The rest was entirely serious though.

While I'm waiting for further articulation of Europe versus America ressentiment let me tell you a story. One of my pals got into a conversation with some Frenchmen. The usual, big bad unilateral neofeudal neoliberal neoconservative America, etc stuff. After they parted ways they each came back to him one by one for information on getting a visa.

Why do you care so much about people in another country? Why is the freedom to live as a diabetic trailer park American Idol watching landwhale so offensive to you?

  

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Some tough questions for the green movement from an environmental journalist
Mustang, the "freedom" is anything but offensive. The arrogance at saying that such lifestyle is somewhat a symbol of "exceptionalism" is. I hope you understand the difference.

 
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Mustang, the "freedom" is anything but offensive. The arrogance at saying that such lifestyle is somewhat a symbol of "exceptionalism" is. I hope you understand the difference.

Exceptionalism was never our idea, blame de Tocqueville (another Frenchman). And still, why should you care if you don't live here?

 

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Mustang, the "freedom" is anything but offensive. The arrogance at saying that such lifestyle is somewhat a symbol of "exceptionalism" is. I hope you understand the difference.

Exceptionalism was never our idea, blame de Tocqueville (another Frenchman). And still, why should you care if you don't live here?

Why should anyone care at arrogant people who think they own it all, and have the weapons to actually own it all? Yeah, why should we care.

 
Re: Some tough questions for the green movement from an environmental journalist
Because u jelly, that's why.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Because u jelly, that's why.

Jelly of what? I could name a bunch of countries where I'd rather live instead, and lo and behold, that list does not include the allmighty and so amazing united states. The level of pretensiousness reaches a point that is just amazingly silly.

 
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the allmighty and so amazing united states

I'm just surprised at the strength of you and Hera's reaction to whatever it is about "Americans" that you don't like when most people I've met here couldn't care less what people in other countries do with themselves.

 

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the allmighty and so amazing united states

I'm just surprised at the strength of you and Hera's reaction to whatever it is about "Americans" that you don't like when most people I've met here couldn't care less what people in other countries do with themselves.

Nah, I really don't care that much. And certainly not about "people"... I was discussing more certain idiossincratic ideologies, or just blind beliefs that come from certain countries than "people". Just stop with the "you jellasss" and "you wish you could be as free as we are" and all that bull**** shenanigan and I'll even forget this conversation.

 

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Just stop with the "you jellasss" and "you wish you could be as free as we are" and all that bull**** shenanigan and I'll even forget this conversation.

Forgetting about it's probably the best way to stop that emigration itch, I mean come on baby when your economy can't quite sustain the nanny state or the fascists start lebensroaming, you know where you want to be

america


 
Re: Some tough questions for the green movement from an environmental journalist
Just stop with the "you jellasss" and "you wish you could be as free as we are" and all that bull**** shenanigan and I'll even forget this conversation.

You'd wish you could, wouldn't you.  :p

By the way I think Batutta is being serious.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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If my country wouldn't be in the ****ing mess it is right now, I'd consider laughing...

 

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Re: Some tough questions for the green movement from an environmental journalist
Come live in the UK. We have overcast skies, near-constant drizzle, tea and more chavs than we know what to do with.

 

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Mustang, the "freedom" is anything but offensive. The arrogance at saying that such lifestyle is somewhat a symbol of "exceptionalism" is. I hope you understand the difference.

Exceptionalism was never our idea, blame de Tocqueville (another Frenchman). And still, why should you care if you don't live here?

As I recall later on he issued a retraction. :P
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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As I recall later on he issued a retraction.

O rly? I've never heard anything of the sort. If it ain't on wikipedia it ain't true.

 

Offline 666maslo666

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 :hopping:  LIQUID FLUORIDE THORIUM REACTORS  :nod:
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:hopping:  LIQUID FLUORIDE THORIUM REACTORS  :nod:

My first thought was, "Oh, my buddy wrote a paper about the viability of that technology in grad school."

My second thought was, "That sounds like the manliest toothpaste ever."

The fluoride is for your enamel, and the thorium is to say that you've got mother****in' thorium in your mouth!

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Come live in the UK. We have overcast skies, near-constant drizzle, tea and more chavs than we know what to do with.

You have no idea how many times I was this close of doing just so. It's harder when you have kids though.

 

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My second thought was, "That sounds like the manliest toothpaste ever."

The fluoride is for your enamel, and the thorium is to say that you've got mother****in' thorium in your mouth!

 :D Try new Thorium Fluoride Toothpaste from Thorium Energy Alliance! Germs wont stand a chance! :D

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My first thought was, "Oh, my buddy wrote a paper about the viability of that technology in grad school."

So what was his conclusion? Because from what I am reading lately on teh internetz, LFTRs seems to be able to satisfy all of humanity energy needs (at least in theory). Some claim we wont even need fusion if LFTRs deliver.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/7970619/Obama-could-kill-fossil-fuels-overnight-with-a-nuclear-dash-for-thorium.html


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Offline 666maslo666

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Re: Some tough questions for the green movement from an environmental journalist
As for solar, I dont think photovoltaics are the way to go. On the other hand, concentrated solar power (mechanical, not PV) delivers far more bang for the buck - the cost per GWh produced already approaches fossil plants, it does not degrade over time like PV, has far higher efficiency and does not require toxic substances in production and toxic waste after decomission.

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"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci

Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you are still retarded.