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Offline Klaustrophobia

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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
i don't get it.  that seems like even worse bloat than the pre-loaded stuff.  why would i want every driver for every graphics card/chipset/whatever, when i only need one of them? 
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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
this kinda thing is easy if you want a desktop. but if you want something a little more portable, the proprietary route is the only way to go, and of course that means oem partitions. of course the first thing i do when i get such a machine, is repartition and format the drives. in a perfect world there would be standardized notebook form factors and interfaces. you could take a mobo out of notebook a and stick it in notebook b, you could change screens with relative ease, you could upgrade the video chipset. now there have been attempts to do some of these things, but none of them have caught on.

i imagine laptop manufacturers' profits would take a substantial hit if they became user-buildable like desktops.  i don't think they're gonna try very hard to make it so.  hell, mine requires so many proprietary drivers and software to run the damn thing i don't even feel safe reformatting and installing a fresh XP on it.

indeed. manufacturers hate standards because that means letting other people reap the profits. instead of buying some 3rd party laptop mobo for $60, you have to buy the specific board for that case, for $160. none of the parts are user serviceable, except perhaps drives, cpu, ram. really i wouldn't mind being locked into a manufacturer if they kept a case standard, provided replacement parts, upgrades, and service manuals. half the time you cant even get a laptop open to work on it, not without breaking something. they would rather you throw the whole thing away and buy a new one, which contributes to e-waste. at least standardize a laptop size gpu module. last laptop had a pcix module for its wifi, which i assume is an interchangeable standard. if they had a 16x version that also had video connections for the monitor and video ports, what would be awesome. alienware had something like it but it was likely proprietary.

hardware aside laptop driver tend to be somewhat intrusive. gpu drivers tend to be reference drivers with stuff added to them by the manufacturer, and it is likely the manufacturer will never update them past the initial release. drivers for hotkeys tend to be required, yet completely unconfigurable. software re-installation on laptops is usually partial. you can never find them all. theres always something that is missing. or something that is the wrong version or whatever. yea i know im preaching to the choir on this one but this kinda thing pisses me off.
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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
i don't get it.  that seems like even worse bloat than the pre-loaded stuff.  why would i want every driver for every graphics card/chipset/whatever, when i only need one of them? 

:lol: Not like that.  Driverpacks.net has every driver, which you then burn to a CD or slipstream with your windows install.  Then you run the DP Install tool (or it is run after the first restart during Windows Setup), it extracts all of the drivers to a temporary location, installs only those drivers which match the current hardware of your system, so make sure any removable wireless cards are plugged in and that your laptop wireless is on <some wireless cards in laptops "unplug" when shut off> and then cleans up. (DriverPacks Finisher)  You can choose which driver packs you want on your CD / Install disk.  (Such as, only Video, only LAN / WLAN, or all, etc)

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alienware had something like it but it was likely proprietary.

Yeah, Alienware=now 0wned by De$$, so most likely correct.
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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
alienware had something like it but it was likely proprietary.

Yeah, Alienware=now 0wned by De$$, so most likely correct.

yea i think they had a laptop videocard technology long before the dell takeover. not quite sure if its something they still used or cast away in favor of soldering the gpu to the mobo to save money.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 11:48:27 pm by Nuke »
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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
1) Use Windows 98
2) ???

:lol: You know, I just thought.. if you did use a Win'98 boot CD, chose "Boot from CD-ROM", then chose not to start setup, you could actually use the old DOS-era FDISK command and it probably wouldn't mind nuking an OEM partition.   ;)  ... was that what you were referring to all along, or was it using Windows '98 as an OS?

 

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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
i prefer the freedos version, xfdisk better. its capable of working with partitions the stock fdisk couldn't even recognize.
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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
Cool.  :yes:  Been forever since I looked at FreeDOS... they have read/write NTFS support yet?

 

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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
im not sure, most recent progress has been towards 32 and 64 bit implementations. but last time i used it i had to use a 3rd party program for ntfs support.
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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
1) Use Windows 98
2) ???

:lol: You know, I just thought.. if you did use a Win'98 boot CD, chose "Boot from CD-ROM", then chose not to start setup, you could actually use the old DOS-era FDISK command and it probably wouldn't mind nuking an OEM partition.   ;)  ... was that what you were referring to all along, or was it using Windows '98 as an OS?

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Re: Erasing OEM partitions: the easy way
im not sure, most recent progress has been towards 32 and 64 bit implementations. but last time i used it i had to use a 3rd party program for ntfs support.

seems theyve added some cool new features, networking for example. heres a complete list of features

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    Easy multiboot with Win95-2003 and NT/XP/ME
    FAT32 file system and large disk support (LBA)
    LFN support via DOSLFN driver
    XDMA & XDVD - UDMA driver for hard discs and DVD players
    LBACACHE - disk cache
    Memory Managers: JEMM386 (XMS, EMS,...)
        possibility of writing 32-bit protected mode drivers (JLMs=Jemm Loadable Module)
    SHSUCDX (MSCDEX replacement) and CD-ROM driver (XCDROM)
    CUTEMOUSE - Mouse driver with scroll wheel support
    FDAPM - APM info/control/suspend/poweroff, ACPI throttle, HLT energy saving...
    MPXPLAY - media player for mp3, ogg, wmv... with built-in AC97 and SB16 drivers; has a user interface
    7ZIP, INFO-ZIP zip & unzip... - modern archivers are available for DOS
    EDIT / SETEDIT - multi window text editors
    HTMLHELP - help viewer, can read help directly from a zip file
    PG - powerful text viewer (similar to V. D. Buerg's LIST)
    many text mode programs ported from Linux thanks to DJGPP
    FreeCOM - command line, supports file completation
    4DOS can be installed, which is an enhanced command line.
    GRAPHICS - greyscale hardcopy on ESC/P, HP PCL and PostScript printers
    Arachne - a graphical web browser and e-mail client
    Fdupdate - updates installed FreeDOS from internet server
    bit torrent client
    anti-virus / virus scanner

make it support 8gb of ram and i can replace windows. :D
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