[FekLeyrTarg]

In this topic I wish to show you any WC model I'm working on. Hopefully I will finish and convert them for use in WC Saga.

Here's the first WC-Model I've ever built: The Salthi MK1 from Wing Commander 1. I've used both the in-game sprites and the drawings from Joan's Fighting Spacecraft included in Claw Marks as template for this model.

Screenshots:
http://www.moddb.com/members/fekleyrtarg/images/salthi-mk1-from-wing-commander-1-in-blender#imagebox
http://www.moddb.com/members/fekleyrtarg/images/salthi-mk1-from-wing-commander-1-in-blender1#imagebox
http://www.moddb.com/members/fekleyrtarg/images/salthi-mk1-from-wing-commander-1-in-blender2#imagebox

Critics, comments and suggestions are welcome.

At this point I wish to thank FreeSpaceFreak for his Shipbuilding tutorial:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=74591.0

[Deathsnake]

Nice Now I know someone for building some Spacestations for Wing Commander 2

[FekLeyrTarg]

Nice Now I know someone for building some Spacestations for Wing Commander 2

Thanks. But don't expect too much from me.

[Deathsnake]

We need the two yellows. K'titrakh Mang and the Supply Depot. And Sol Sector Base. ^^

[GT-Keravnos]

A good beginning. I wish I had your modelling skills.
What I can do is point to the single best Salthi I have seen, modelled in wc pioneer.
Maybe this can help with the machine texturing process, especially the minute details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWnm7oqmUuQ
A machine texturing turorial
http://www.xwaupgrade.com/tutorials/texturing2.htm

[FekLeyrTarg]

A good beginning. I wish I had your modelling skills.
What I can do is point to the single best Salthi I have seen, modelled in wc pioneer.
Maybe this can help with the machine texturing process, especially the minute details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWnm7oqmUuQ
A machine texturing turorial
http://www.xwaupgrade.com/tutorials/texturing2.htm

Thank you those.
Yes, I agree with you. I'm very impressed by Pioneer's Salthi.

As Deathsnake requested, I've started working on the Supply Depot:
http://www.moddb.com/members/fekleyrtarg/images/kilrathi-supply-depot-from-wc2

[Deathsnake]

Hui that was fast. Perhaps you can use the textures and the turrets from the WC2 Remake Fralthra. Or better: I send you the Kamekh from Talon and you use the textures and the round turrets. I would say we need around 6 Dual Laser Turrets for the depot (old: 2 flak cannons)

But you are really close to the original design:
http://www.wcnews.com/ships/wc2ksupplydepot.shtml

[FekLeyrTarg]

Which is my intention: To stay as close as possible to the original.
I only need to find a way to flatten the sides of the central sphere.
But are you sure with the Dual Laser Turrets instead of the 2 Flak Cannons?

[Deathsnake]

We can use 2 Flak Cannons. But then it's to easy to destroy that station. I try it already with the Kamekh. The Flak Cannons are not that powerfull to destroy a fighter in a short time. When we use Flak Cannons then it needs at least 4 of them. In Wing Commander 2 the Flak Cannons was danger. In Freespace 2 they need more firepower or more turrets. Afterall I liked Laser and AMG fire more than the Flaks

[Commander Zane]

The individual flak shell could just have a higher hit / blast damage rating...

[Deathsnake]

The you have the problem to destroy the Flak Cannon and easy destroy the station. In WC2 it was impossible to destroy weapons. In Saga you can destroy the turrets. And with only 2 turrets the station is very low against such a attack. If we put two turrets on the upperside the underside is defenceless. And if we put one in the upper, one on the lowerside you just need to destroy one turret. So I think 3 Laser on the upper / 3 lowerside its more a tread to your bomber

[FekLeyrTarg]

Good idea. Let's place 6 laser turrets in addition to both flak turrets. What do you think about it?

Anyways, there's progress on the Depot:
http://www.moddb.com/members/fekleyrtarg/images/kilrathi-supply-depot-from-wc2-progress1

But I need you feedback, especially now. I wish to place a hangar onto the Depot to launch its 52 fighters but I don't know where.

Btw this is from where I know how to flatten the sphere from the side:
http://blenderartists.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-111909.html

[Deathsnake]

I would say we make it very simple. Just a texture on the upperside, that imagine a door to the hangarbay.


By alex0075 at 2011-06-03

And yes. That idea with the turrets are perfect

[Dragon]

You could make flak turrets very difficult (or even impossible) to destroy by giving them a lot of hitpoints (and perhaps making targeting them impossible, like in WC2).

[FekLeyrTarg]

Salthi pretty much finished:
http://www.moddb.com/members/fekleyrtarg/images/salthi-mk1-progress-1
Any suggestions before I try to UVMap and texture it?

[Talon 1024]

For one thing, don't use that many vertices on the engine cylinder.  You'll end up with too many polygons where they aren't really necessary.

Secondly, you can use the edgesplit modifier to create smoothgroups.  See this for more information about smoothgroups in Blender.

Thirdly, I have a texturing tutorial on the WCHF website for GIMP users.

[FekLeyrTarg]

Thanks for these suggestions. I've started to rebuild the engines with less polies. I think I should do the same with the guns.

I've played around with the lower spheres. Now their height is more like in WCII's manual:
http://www.moddb.com/members/fekleyrtarg/images/kilrathi-supply-depot-from-wc2-progress-2

[Deathsnake]

Great. What's your plan now about the Hangar? Just a "hangartexture" or build in a hangar like the Perry Naval Base from Privateer?

[FekLeyrTarg]

I'd rather go for the texture.

[Deathsnake]

k. Until you finish the Station I build a little bit for Last Line. For the Wing 2 Remake I'm atm just at that mission where blair destroy such a supply depot