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Offline Hades

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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
Well, it depends how you define "turns faster".

If I understand correctly, the Apollo has a better max turn rate, but Valk has a better turn acceleration. Which means than in some/most occasions, the Valk will indeed turn faster than the Apollo.
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
At your service dear sir ;p

It's just that people tend to look at the stats without looking at the meaning behind them.
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
Why else did they go through the trouble to build the Colossus as an anti-lucifer measure?
Well, mainly for propaganda, really.

except the colossus project was classified to the point the first you supposedly first hear about it in an officers briefing after it's first combat deployment, a bit difficult to use it as propaganda when you cant tell people what it is.
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
How does the Pegasus match up to all the fighters here?

Why else did they go through the trouble to build the Colossus as an anti-lucifer measure?
Well, mainly for propaganda, really.

except the colossus project was classified to the point the first you supposedly first hear about it in an officers briefing after it's first combat deployment, a bit difficult to use it as propaganda when you cant tell people what it is.
I mean, how can ANYONE miss a huge 6km ship being built over the orbit of <planet> which has been...going for, twenty years?

 

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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
I mean, how can ANYONE miss a huge 6km ship being built over the orbit of <planet> which has been...going for, twenty years?
Same reason they couldn't find Argon anywhere but Sol, because they weren't looking hard enough
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
Apparently in the future eyesight will have seriously degraded...

 

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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
Space is enormous. Simple as that. You really expect a single ship to be easily found like that?

 

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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
It's actually expecting potentially millions of people seeing it. Ah... I don't really care anyway. :P

 

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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
They used the same technology that's used so that people don't notice the TARDIS (I don't mean camouflage, I mean the thing that makes you disregard it). :p

 

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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
except the colossus project was classified to the point the first you supposedly first hear about it in an officers briefing after it's first combat deployment, a bit difficult to use it as propaganda when you cant tell people what it is.
Err, wut.

Last time I checked, Khonsu II made a public speech before the General Assembly about that project before they even started it. The only things classified were the "briefing" of this cutscene, because it includes the technical specs of the Collie, but its existence wasn't hidden. It's not like if it was possible to hide such a project in the first place, nor that the GTVA had any interest in hiding such a powerful propaganda asset.
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
except the colossus project was classified to the point the first you supposedly first hear about it in an officers briefing after it's first combat deployment, a bit difficult to use it as propaganda when you cant tell people what it is.
Err, wut.

Last time I checked, Khonsu II made a public speech before the General Assembly about that project before they even started it. The only things classified were the "briefing" of this cutscene, because it includes the technical specs of the Collie, but its existence wasn't hidden. It's not like if it was possible to hide such a project in the first place, nor that the GTVA had any interest in hiding such a powerful propaganda asset.

Interesting... I had always assumed it ws kept secret until deployment, but that makes a lot of sense. (I remember wondering about the Khonsu II speech and figured it was a secret speech or something and shrugged it off.
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
The Apollo will always have a special place in my heart. I always imagine that the first "fighter" class ship that we put into space will look something like it.

Can't remember if the Apollo was relatively fast, like the Perseus. Recall it was just an all-around balanced fighter.
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
Apollo and Perseus have the exact same burner stats. The Persie has however a better standard max speed, but who uses that anyway.
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

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Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

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batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
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MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
Err, wut.

Last time I checked, Khonsu II made a public speech before the General Assembly about that project before they even started it. The only things classified were the "briefing" of this cutscene, because it includes the technical specs of the Collie, but its existence wasn't hidden. It's not like if it was possible to hide such a project in the first place, nor that the GTVA had any interest in hiding such a powerful propaganda asset.

The Colossus was classified before deployment. None of the people in The Sixth Wonder recognized it; Command had to tell you about it. The NTF was utterly unprepared and unable to fight it. If they had known it existed, they would have at least tried and probably succeeded with coming up with a means to delay it. Instead the Colossus reduced the NTF to irrelevancy all on its own.
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
It was classified Level Rho.


I have a feeling it was more of an "open secret" though. Everyone knew something of that kind existed, but they weren't allowed to talk about it and didn't know any specifics.

 

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Something akin to the Manhattan Project? Major undertaking, mostly kept secret. Tipped the balance of the war.
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
It was classified Level Rho.


I have a feeling it was more of an "open secret" though. Everyone knew something of that kind existed, but they weren't allowed to talk about it and didn't know any specifics.
That may be, actually. The tech description of the Hades in FS2 suggested that there were rumors of a second Hades vessel being built, so perhaps the rumors were about another Hades when in fact it turned out to be a Colossus.
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Re: GTF Apollo = GTF Perseus ( ???? )
That may be, actually. The tech description of the Hades in FS2 suggested that there were rumors of a second Hades vessel being built, so perhaps the rumors were about another Hades when in fact it turned out to be a Colossus.
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