[Qent]

Yeah, a universe with another Colossus would potentially be so different from BP that it's meaningless to talk about anything less specific than "How many Durgas are required to take down a Colossus?"

Helios continuity for the win, though.

[Snail]

But in BP there are alternate universes

[Hades]

The second would would likely see total completion, and would likely be slightly different, with better materials or construction all around, learning from the mistakes of the first model.

The GTVA did learn from their mistakes. That's why they didn't build another Colossus and instead went for a high mobility force, purpose build for quick manouvering and shock-jumping.

Obviously. I meant in the way of ship construction. Better materials, more sensible construction methods and such.

[Luis Dias]

So one Colly could have jumped to the wrong sol node.

That would be a neat diversion. Of course, that timeline would be so different, the Colly itself would be utterly confused at the present conflict.

[The E]

In BP, the better, sensible construction method for Colossus-class vessels is "don't build one Colossus when you can build two Raynors instead".

[Kolgena]

I thought the Colossus was going to be used as some sort of hypothetical benchmark, kind of like Lucifer vs. Colossus or something like that.

Why do we care about whether such a hypothetical set up is possible? How hard is it to chuck some ships together in FRED and load fireworks? If it's a benchmark we care about, then things like how old the Colossus is, what time it's from, what it's made of, whether it has fighters is moot, because we just want to see how well pure durgas do against 1 colossus.

Edit: I can live with being a pawn if the game makes sense!

[Hades]

In BP, the better, sensible construction method for Colossus-class vessels is "don't build one Colossus when you can build two Raynors instead".

Well herp-de-derp. Not arguing that, in fact.

[Luis Dias]

No Kolgena, that would have been too ****ing simple, and we apparently have a taste for complexifibications.

[-Norbert-]

I thought the Colossus was going to be used as some sort of hypothetical benchmark, kind of like Lucifer vs. Colossus or something like that.

It did start out that way, but then fighter and bomber complements were brought into the discussion, followed by escort warships, then the strategic situation. And I think that sums up (and at the same time over-simplyfies) how we got to the current line of arguments I think.

Oh and then Snail brought parallel universes into the discussion as well, to make sure we have every conceivable situation covered

[Kolgena]

Well, someone set up that super complicated scenario.





If it looks really good when we're done, we'll submit it as WiH R2's massivebattle BOE stress test.

[Kosh]

In BP, the better, sensible construction method for Colossus-class vessels is "don't build one Colossus when you can build two Raynors instead".

Probably more than two Raynors since the Colossus had way more total volume. There is some sense in having a couple of superdestroyers for heavy blockade busting/enforcing and major fleet engagements, but beyond that there's no reason.

[Flak]

At least how fast just a few of these things rape the hell out of the Medea, and those things were only loaded with Jackhammers instead of Sledgehammers.

[-Norbert-]

In BP, the better, sensible construction method for Colossus-class vessels is "don't build one Colossus when you can build two Raynors instead".

Probably more than two Raynors since the Colossus had way more total volume. There is some sense in having a couple of superdestroyers for heavy blockade busting/enforcing and major fleet engagements, but beyond that there's no reason.

Didn't the cutscene say something about the mass of 6 lucifers? I guess a Raynor and Lucifer have roughly comparable volume.

[Hades]

Didn't the cutscene say something about the mass of 6 lucifers? I guess a Raynor and Lucifer have roughly comparable volume.

No. It said twelve, which is absolutely recockulous. It's more like 4-6.

[Kosh]

Didn't the cutscene say something about the mass of 6 lucifers? I guess a Raynor and Lucifer have roughly comparable volume.

No. It said twelve, which is absolutely recockulous. It's more like 4-6.

The Lucifer was long, but it was also very thin, kind of narrow and not very tall. Even if they were the same length the Colossus was much more spacious.

[Luis Dias]

That's easy to check in the volume of both models, innit? Much talk little science I see

[Darius]

Durga Durga jihad?

 

[Hades]

The Lucifer was long, but it was also very thin, kind of narrow and not very tall. Even if they were the same length the Colossus was much more spacious.

Yeah. Not that much thinner, actually.

[Buckshee Rounds]

Even as a self-proclaimed Tev this is a little too much dick-waving for my liking. Why can't we have a joint pinup calendar and compare Chebs for once? We can let the Vasudans in on it too, with that beautiful monstrosity pinup girl...

And **** the Colossus, it was crap in FS2 and it'd be mega-crap in BP. I want to see the GTD Hades taking on a wing of Durgas, that's a real fight! (Until they hide in the 'trench')

Ninja'ed: I could've sworn the Colossus cutscene scaled down the Lucifer to look smaller. In fact it looks like this is the case: http://youtu.be/DX6bzq3M4M4?t=1m18s

[Snail]

'scuse me, what makes the Hades any more useful than the Colossus?