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Offline FFOman

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Ever feel like everyone knows best but nobody knows right? <g>
     Being a self-taught, freelance programmer, as well as an old hippie who stil refuses to grow up, one of my passions have always been computer games.  The very first game I ever played was at the University of Southern California while indulging the Dean with some hard efforts in the realms of Fortran and Cobalt on a noisy machine that was bigger than my dorm room!  But there was a good side!  When the real students left for the night, we jumped onto an available keyboard and played Star Trek all the way across the city and against UCLA, our cross-town rivals in just about anything!
     Anyway, I started programming for real when Delphi 1 first came out and despite the popularity of Visual Basic.  Why?  Because I simply couldn't fathom the reason a VAR was a DIM in VB but still a VAR in Delphi!  There's gotta be something wrong with people who do things like that! 
     Okay, enough about me.  But as of late I've started feeling really dumb.  This began right after I read about the FSO mod project in PC computing mag, and has gotten worse with each new break of dawn!  Let's face it...the instructions given on the links the article provided were much less than required or even needed!  And so I began running half cocked around the net looking for a consise list of files, their types, where they could be downloaded from, how, where, and in what order they should be installed.  Then of course there are other and equally important questions to be asked, such as the proper Freespace 2 version to get.  I bought a new copy from GameSpot's download store because GOG, ( not Dog in reverse although it should be! ), wouldn't accept my American Visa, and they told me it should be patched with the available retail patches.  Sounds a bit fishy to me though as every other downloaded game I ever picked up required specialized versions of any patches ever released!
     Also and amongst the many and very different answers to my questions I've been told that differant media files are for various processors and graphic cards.  And basically a whole lot more info and file naming along the way which has made my increasing confusion a nightmare!  But finally I found your site, and dam, I'm even more confused! <g>  Now maybe I shouldn't be crossing the streets by myself anymore, but I just think the right people...that being those who actually built this Mod and suffered it to be as great as I hope it will be if and when I ever get to try it out, should take a moment or two to express their views on installation and clear the air for those of us, who though not yet on social security, simply cannot get this installed to the very highest level for the machine they are using!
     Now I'm a bit lucky in this particular matter, as I just a week ago put the finishing touches on a brand new tower with specs only to be admired and in awe of.  <BG>  So if someone hears my desparate call for help and is willing to be of service to the community, I and I'm sure many others would greatly appreaciate your efforts!  And speaking for myself, I would be forever beholding to anyone who might be able to offer me a hand.  ( Honestly, I even considered offering my first-born.  She's a real knockout of course, but she just turned 28 and already has a good man in her life.  Sorry! )

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Ever feel like everyone knows best but nobody knows right? <g>
Well, basically there are two options.

Either this one, which involves using an automated installer (or rather downloader) which may or may not work.

Or this one, which describes how to do things manually. Requires more user input but if you follow the instructions, you will get everything necessary and it'll work (user-made campaigns excluded).

If there is something specific that confuses you, please pinpoint the exact part.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Flipside

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Re: Ever feel like everyone knows best but nobody knows right? <g>
You're not alone :) My first experience of Computer Games was when this new fangled thing called 'Space Invaders' was installed at my local Cinema, and playing Pong on a Binatone when it was pretty much the only console in existence, I remember my excitement when the Calecovision came out with a whole 16 colours in 1982 ;)

I think the community is aware of the fact that installing FS2Open can be a confusing prospect, I think part of the problem is that the whole guide was written by people who have, in general, been modding the game for years and know the directory/naming conventions off by heart.

The Freespace Open Installer here can make life a lot easier, but it doesn't solve every problem.

 

Offline Satellight

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Re: Ever feel like everyone knows best but nobody knows right? <g>
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I bought a new copy from GameSpot's download store (...) and they told me it should be patched with the available retail patches.

If you need the official retail patch, you could find it HERE, apply it after the step one of the instructions in the LINK Jeff Vader provided.

Welcome and good game !
Never far away from HLP and from a computer with an installed FreeSpace.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Ever feel like everyone knows best but nobody knows right? <g>
If you really want to get to the bottom level with the basic stuff, for FSO you need
- FSO builds (fs2_open_-----.exe files) in your \freespace2\ directory
- a Launcher (Launcher.exe) in your \freespace2\ directory.

You'll use the Launcher to select an FSO build, and to set various (optional) options, then you'll just start the game with the "Run" button.

For graphical pleasure, you'll need, in addition to the above,
- the 3.6.12 MediaVPs (MV_---.vp files) in \freespace2\mediavps_3612\ .

You'll then use the Launcher to select \freespace2\mediavps_3612\ as the active mod folder.

Other user-made mods work basically the same way as the MediaVPs: .vp files to \freespace2\modname\ , select \freespace2\modname\ with the Launcher, done.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Ever feel like everyone knows best but nobody knows right? <g>
Also,

 

Offline FFOman

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Re: Ever feel like everyone knows best but nobody knows right? <g>
     Thanx to all who attended!  One thing I can say for sure, this mod has indeed surfaced to find more allegiance than I remember seeing with any game being modded except for perhaps Valve's own masterpiece!  Look how many went nuts over that simple excuse for a mod for Half-Life 2 called, "Gary's Mod".  To my way of thinking it was practically a sin to even considerate it a mod under any circumstances.  I know I'm practically alone in my views, but who in Saint's Row could think of it otherwise?

 

Offline The E

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Re: Ever feel like everyone knows best but nobody knows right? <g>
I am not entirely certain I understand what you are saying there, sorry.
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
--Evergrey, Where August Mourns

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Ever feel like everyone knows best but nobody knows right? <g>
(He's praising HLP)