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Offline Luis Dias

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Cre-o-tard. Mr Paul gets to say very popular things because he's not ever going to get elected. He's the buffoon that says what is on everyone's mind. However the **** would hit the fan if he did.

  
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Why would someone's personal beliefs have anything to do with their political strategy? If you were to run for office with the same ideas as Mr. Paul, as a Atheist, I would respect your religious beliefs and not think you less for that, as long as you're a trustworthy individual that actually knows how to fix stuff. (and more importantly, proceed to do so)

Also, the only reason Mr. Paul would be stopped from being elected is if the mainsteam media continues to have enough power to influence people's belief. It's almost like the Germans at Stalingrad. it's pushed because, and I agree with you on that, the SHTF if he did get elected, in a positive way. You'd see a mass exodus of rats out of D.C.

If they were smart, though, they'd let him get elected, because the alternative may be worse for the status quo.
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Offline Luis Dias

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Creationism isn't just about religion, you should know better than that. It's in direct confrontation with scientific knowledge. Perhaps you think otherwise, but to have someone believing that the science is bollocks and that creationism is right is not exactly what I think as "sane" in 2011. To me that counts a lot. The hell with atheism, I'm not the one proposing ungodly explanations as "alternatives" to the current scientific theories and then proclaim them as "equal".


About the SHTF, Ron would be the first casualty. Just like John Paul the first.

 

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Creationism isn't just about religion, you should know better than that. It's in direct confrontation with scientific knowledge. Perhaps you think otherwise, but to have someone believing that the science is bollocks and that creationism is right is not exactly what I think as "sane" in 2011. To me that counts a lot. The hell with atheism, I'm not the one proposing ungodly explanations as "alternatives" to the current scientific theories and then proclaim them as "equal".


About the SHTF, Ron would be the first casualty. Just like John Paul the first.
Again, how's he (Ron Paul) a creationist? It's no different from most Democrats in that regard; he practices a religion (he's actually a Baptist) but doesn't preach on the subject or force his views on everyone else. Far better than Rick Perry, the OP's subject. And before you start bashing, remember that Bill Clinton and Al Gore are both Baptists.
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He said it himself, evolution is "just a theory" that he personally "doesn't believe in it". Both Al Gore and Clinton may believe all they want, they were never this anti-scientific (not that I like them either, check Clinton's interview here here, where he says insanely bad things about what science is "telling us" starting @ 52 minutes or so and facepalm yourselves; and Al Gore is just an insane bat**** posh anticapitalist hypocritical doom fearmongerer).

But I agree, he's less crazy than Perry. Perry, Palin and Bachmann should be in the asylum.

 

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Without it we'd all be reconquered by the British Empire and be a poor colony. And it sure is a lot younger than the idea of tyranny - over 6000 years old.

Yeah! Cause who wants to be poor like......Canada!
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Re: Mr."please God fix the economy" wants to be president
The American Revolution around 1776 led to much more than just freedom to the USA, as it caused many people to rebel against their leaders. The reason Canada is doing well is partially thanks to that - Many canadian people fought in their own ways for partial independence. For more details on that you'll have to check Canadese history, I'm not very proficient at it.
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Re: Mr."please God fix the economy" wants to be president
The American Revolution around 1776 led to much more than just freedom to the USA, but it caused many people to rebel against their leaders. The reason Canada is doing well is partially thanks to that - Many canadian people fought in their own ways for partial independence. For more details on that you'll have to check Canadese history, I'm not very proficient at it.

No ****, I never would have guessed  :nono:

Canada never had a rebellion against Britain [EDIT:  I should say, not a significant successful one, to be completely accurate].  We're still a Dominion in the British Commonwealth, and our head of state is still the Queen.  If you knew your history, you'd be well aware that Canada actually joined the wider British Empire in military action on US soil during the War of 1812.  You'd be further aware that Canada achieved its current status through negotiation with the Crown and a need for wider autonomy.  While the Rebellion in the 13 Colonies may have made Britain a lot more willing to hand over autonomy, there were also a lot of other changes wrought in Britain's governing formula that were responsible (among them, parliamentary changes that occurred as a result of the goings on in Ireland).

I know American History teaches how the United States is a beacon of freedom and democracy in the world that carved its own place and is responsible for changes that occurred globally, and the narrative is further expounded upon in conservative/libertarian circles, but it just isn't the case.  History, as taught in many American elementary and high schools, is a very revisionist version.  Ask the Hawaiians about it sometime.
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Luis, he may be a creationist, but if he is also a Libertarian then it doesn't matter because the Libertarian political philosophy is that the government doesn't have the right to tell you what to believe.
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Offline Luis Dias

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Yes you're right. It wouldn't affect public schooling in forcing them to accept that evolution is "just a theory" and to enforce the teaching of "alternatives", he would just shut down public schools and be done with it.

Hey you know what, that's even crazier.

 

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has he taken that position?
specifically?
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Offline Luis Dias

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-EAYncCRok

How he would love to shut down everything public...

 

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ok, well then it's not specificity schools :)

sounds more like he wants to push the authority back down to the state/local level, not shut them down.
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Offline Luis Dias

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Hmm. We apparently see two different videos.

 

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his position on just about everything is "the federal government sucks let the states handle things themselves" which I tend to agree with, though I'm not specifically a supporter of his.
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Offline Roanoke

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Personally I see no reason why anyone would want to be Mr Pesident now or in the next few years. The whole "defecit" thing can't go on forever, soon either taxes have to go up and/or spending cut.....and not just in America, either.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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his position on just about everything is "the federal government sucks let the states handle things themselves" which I tend to agree with, though I'm not specifically a supporter of his.

If you are going to ignore all his rantings against everything "public", and any other of his policies, sure.

 

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Besides, if you'd actually kept tabs on state government in this country (you know, the guys who ****ed up California, who want to introduce evolution into the textbooks in Kansas, etc.) you'd not be terribly sanguine about letting them have more control.

To say nothing of the genius of stripping the FBI and related agencies and throwing the weight of fighting the sort of crime they deal with on state police, who will always have fewer resources both monetary and otherwise.
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well, to make a comment back about the topic (if no one is opposed to me doing that) I honestly want Perry to get the nomination, I have a feeling he would get eviscerated in the general election, maybe not by Obama (who has shown himself to be incapable of political maneuvering) but I have a feeling the Comedy Central news team would do a good job. and I desperately want more public confrontation on this topic.
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Why would someone's personal beliefs have anything to do with their political strategy?

You don't know much about how humans work, do you?
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