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Offline BloodEagle

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Re: Chernobyl's Death Toll.
Ahha. . . I must listen to the History Channel more critically

You should include the whole of A&E's various networks, along with that.

 

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Really, you just shouldn't listen to the History Channel at all.
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Re: Chernobyl's Death Toll.
Really, you just shouldn't listen to the History Channel at all.

Unless you get History International. That's somewhat safer.
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Re: Chernobyl's Death Toll.
To be fair, back in the day, History channel was alright.  It wasn't perfect, or groundbreaking, but it was alright.  You know, back when they were stuck in their rut, rutting about Hitler.

 

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To be fair, back in the day, History channel was alright.  It wasn't perfect, or groundbreaking, but it was alright.  You know, back when they were stuck in their rut, rutting about Hitler.


What about their "groundbreaking" work on ancient aliens?
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Re: Chernobyl's Death Toll.
"back in the day"

 
Re: Chernobyl's Death Toll.
The subject continues on though.

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201108166394

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The article said that radioactive substances were detected in a 252,000-square-kilometer area within 800 kilometers to the east of Fukushima Prefecture. It said the level of cesium-137 was up to 300 times higher than corresponding concentrations in waters near China. Strontium-90 was detected at levels up to 10 times higher than those found in Chinese waters.
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Re: Chernobyl's Death Toll.
Both of those isotopes are only ever going to be found in nature as a result of nuclear reactions. Cesium-137 in fact is not even found in nature. That means that finding any at all is going to be massively more than would usually be present. It doesn't by and of itself mean there is a danger.


It's like finding a car in the middle of the Amazon forest and extrapolating that cause you've found it there must be a pollution danger to the forest cause of all those car exhausts.
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Re: Chernobyl's Death Toll.
Both of those isotopes are only ever going to be found in nature as a result of nuclear reactions. Cesium-137 in fact is not even found in nature. That means that finding any at all is going to be massively more than would usually be present. It doesn't by and of itself mean there is a danger.


It's like finding a car in the middle of the Amazon forest and extrapolating that cause you've found it there must be a pollution danger to the forest cause of all those car exhausts.


So if Cesium 137 concentrations are 300 times normal, and normal concentrations are 0, does that mean the Cesium levels are 0? :P
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Yes. It does.
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So if Cesium 137 concentrations are 300 times normal, and normal concentrations are 0, does that mean the Cesium levels are 0? :P

There are traces of it around from nuclear bomb tests, Chernobyl, etc but yeah, 300 times very very little is still very little.
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I understand that fruit grown on Bikini Atoll is inedible because Cesium has replaced Potassium isotopes in the fruit itself, making the fruit quite toxic.

  

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I understand that fruit grown on Bikini Atoll is inedible because Cesium has replaced Potassium isotopes in the fruit itself, making the fruit quite toxic.

If true, that's freaking awesome.

 

Offline Mars

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I don't know it for a fact, saw it on the Discovery Channel: but here's a study that seems to confirm it. Better equipped people, feel free to demolish it. Study

 

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Re: Chernobyl's Death Toll.
It wouldn't surprise me, given the sheer amount of nuclear material detonated there.

 

Offline Mars

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I'm kinda surprised there are plants there