[quadinhonic_II]

How long does it take to build a Knossos device?

[an0n]

Nooooobody knoooooows.

[quadinhonic_II]

How about a guess

[Stunaep]

A command briefing referred to at least a decade.

I think.

[quadinhonic_II]

Could the Ancients build one sooner given their advanced tech?

[Darkage]

Originally posted by quadinhonic_II
Could the Ancients build one sooner given their advanced tech?

Seems logical to me,
Maby in half the time 5 years or so.

[quadinhonic_II]

What if Terrans and Vasudans and another species help them build one?

[Razor]

Originally posted by quadinhonic_II
What if Terrans and Vasudans and another species help them build one?

Like which species? Shivans? Don't be ridiculous!

[IceFire]

According to myself and Kellan...the Charon took about 5 years of construction.  But of resources were put into one project causing some political problems

[quadinhonic_II]

Originally posted by Razor


Like which species? Shivans? Don't be ridiculous!

Cant tell you that its something in my campagin that no one should know about untill the campagin is released. Lets just say that this new species has technology rivaling the Shivans.

[Razor]

Originally posted by IceFire
According to myself and Kellan...the Charon took about 5 years of construction.  But of resources were put into one project.

Well if it took five years, then the Golgota probably took about 3 or less years to complete. If I am not wrong, that subspace device is BIIIIIG!

[IceFire]

Yeah...the device is pretty big.  But a good portion of it is similar to an Arcadia in design so its relatively simple to produce (modular construction and all) so its not like a warship with intricate hull plating, primary and backup internal systems and weapons compliment.

The Golgotha...probably about 5-6 years for its development simply because the technology its built around is experimental.  The construction is once again relatively simple.

[Nuclear1]

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[an0n]

Originally posted by quadinhonic_II
Cant tell you that its something in my campagin that no one should know about untill the campagin is released. Lets just say that this new species has technology rivaling the Shivans.

Aside from their node traversing and construction capacity, the Terrans and Vasudans rivalled the Shivans.

Did they ever say that the Knossos was Ancient in origin? It mighta been from an even earlier wiped out race (like those suggested in Bosch's first monologue).

[quadinhonic_II]

Originally posted by an0n

Aside from their node traversing and construction capacity, the Terrans and Vasudans rivalled the Shivans.

I dont quite agree with that. The Shivans have been out in space much much longer than Vasudans and Terrans. The Sath's forward beam cannons are more powerful than anything the GTVA has. Lucifer shield system; better than anything GTA PVN had(s). Shivan fighters; more powerful, manervable, big load capscity. The GTA PVN wouldnt have shield sys if the Shivans hadnt been so careless.

[Riven]

what about the shivan comm nodes, they must be able to be bulit quickly and if they could make one just slightly larger then maybe they could fit a fighter through?

But if the shivans were using the other knossus devices in the nebula systems then how come they never got through to terran space before? the answer: you must have the device at the end of the unstable/broken system jump.

B]That is why building one at the opposite end from Sol will not get you back to Sol. [/B]

And if a message did get back to Earth with details on how to build one it is unlikly that they would have the resources to build it.

It's just my thoughts but it seems to make sense. A possible way round this problem would be to invent an intersystem jump drive that relyed on coordinates and then make subspace a bit like a stormy nebula!

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Riven
what about the shivan comm nodes, they must be able to be bulit quickly and if they could make one just slightly larger then maybe they could fit a fighter through?

What? For all we know the comm nodes could have taken 1000 years to build and could have been there for 7000.
 And what on earth does the time taken to build a shivan comm node have to do with anything anyway?

[Riven]

Originally posted by karajorma


What? For all we know the comm nodes could have taken 1000 years to build and could have been there for 7000.
 And what on earth does the time taken to build a shivan comm node have to do with anything anyway?

What use would a comm node be if it took 1000 years to build? And if this was the case then they would be much more heavily guarded as the destruction of one could set the shivan advance back centurys.

As for the time taken to build one. It must employ similar technology to the knossos to comunicate between systems (this is theorised in a command breifing) so therefore it would give an idea to the complexety of such technology and how to implement it.

[Admiral LSD]

Originally posted by an0n
Did they ever say that the Knossos was Ancient in origin? It mighta been from an even earlier wiped out race (like those suggested in Bosch's first monologue).

I think they do in a command briefing for one of the missions following the one where you first find it.

Originally posted by Riven
What use would a comm node be if it took 1000 years to build? And if this was the case then they would be much more heavily guarded as the destruction of one could set the shivan advance back centurys.

As for the time taken to build one. It must employ similar technology to the knossos to comunicate between systems (this is theorised in a command breifing) so therefore it would give an idea to the complexety of such technology and how to implement it.

According to FS1, the Shivans had been around for over 8000 years so whats another century or so here and there?

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Riven


What use would a comm node be if it took 1000 years to build? And if this was the case then they would be much more heavily guarded as the destruction of one could set the shivan advance back centurys.

You seem to be failing to get my point. You said that the comm nodes were built quickly. There is NO data to support that. The comm nodes could have taken 5 minutes, 5 years or 500 years for the shivans to build. We just don`t know!

Originally posted by Riven
As for the time taken to build one. It must employ similar technology to the knossos to comunicate between systems (this is theorised in a command breifing) so therefore it would give an idea to the complexety of such technology and how to implement it.

No it isn`t. In fact at no point in the game is the purpose of the Comm node revealed. If fact we only know that it is a shivan comm node cause if you open it in FRED that's what it's called.
 If you saw something about it in a command briefing it was in a user created mission and is therefore not official.
 Secondly it's also possible that the shivan comm nodes have NOTHING whatsoever to do with interstellar communication but are used for some sort of in-system broadcasting.
 Furthermore it's fairly obvious that the GTVA is using some sort of faster than light communication in system. For all we know this form of communication can also be used for interstellar communication so it is possible that the shivan comm nodes don`t use subspace to send messages.
 Again we simply do not know.