[NGTM-1R]

The point sailing over your head.

The Chief isn't an explorer, he's a solider. Exploring a Forerunner shield world is waaay outside his competencies for the most part. Granted he's probably a pretty smart guy but even so, this is hardly what his training and experience have prepared him for.

And they're not going to have you spend the first half of the game ****ing up. You know that.

[Beskargam]

Or would that fall under the "downright bizarre" category?

that might be a hard sell to fans (not that i wouldn't mind if done right), but there is the issue chief has been devoid of personality for most of the games and everybody will have their own idea on how he should be, and some wont want any interjected at all.



The Chief isn't an explorer, he's a solider. Exploring a Forerunner shield world is waaay outside his competencies for the most part. Granted he's probably a pretty smart guy but even so, this is hardly what his training and experience have prepared him for.

And they're not going to have you spend the first half of the game ****ing up. You know that.
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and wasnt that pretty much half the point of the first two games? or at least the background anyway? the chief sorta hasta explore the big new ring to find aliens to frag seeing as he hasnt been there before



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[NGTM-1R]

and wasnt that pretty much half the point of the first two games? or at least the background anyway? the chief sorta hasta explore the big new ring to find aliens to frag seeing as he hasnt been there before

I seem to recall you had aliens to shoot less than thirty seconds after you landed on Delta Halo, and maybe a minute on the first one.

[Scotty]

and wasnt that pretty much half the point of the first two games? or at least the background anyway? the chief sorta hasta explore the big new ring to find aliens to frag seeing as he hasnt been there before

I seem to recall you had aliens to shoot less than thirty seconds after you landed on Delta Halo, and maybe a minute on the first one.

I seem to recall no evidence pointing to this being different for the new game.

And no, the point didn't sail over my head.  He's a soldier yes, and another part of his job is to adapt to changing situations very quickly and find the best way to survive in the absence of a defined objective.  Just because he's subject to whatever whim the higher ups have that day doesn't mean he can't adapt, indeed we've seen him do such before frequently.

[Grimper]

I doubt bungie could ever do as good as nintendo when it comes to the metroid prime playstyle, and it would be quite stupid of them to try with a character like the chief. So yeh more likely it's gonna be closer to bioshock, there's more story and background, and some puzzle solving elements....but at the end of the day it's still an FPS

[MatthTheGeek]

I doubt bungie could

Yeah, right. Bungie's now out of the Halo loop. It's 343 Industries on the job now.

[Grimper]

*googles 343 industries*
 
D:

Ok let me revise what I said. There is absolutely no way in hell 343 industries/microsoft can ever hold a candle to nintendo.

[Grizzly]

Ok let me revise what I said. There is absolutely no way in hell 343 industries/microsoft can ever hold a candle to nintendo.

You might want to explain that one. Becuase when I think "nintendon", I think "Mario", and so many candles can be held to that game that you would nto be able to see it on picture because of all the lens flare.

[Grimper]

Well nintendo made the metroid series, as well as zelda and mario and many other iconic games. Basically any awesome game that you can think of from your childhood, nintendo made it.

So if halo 4 is comparable to metroid, then it will be a very poor comparison indeed.

[Scotty]

True enough, but that's because Other M sucked more than it is that 343 is incapable of doing it.  Don't let your nostalgia get in the way.  Metroid Prime was an amazing set of games.  Halo is arguably more successful and just as entertaining.  Condemning the next Halo game as automatically falling short by any meter imaginable just reeks of preconception and fanboyism.  Makes it much harder to take anything you say seriously.

[Grimper]

Fanboyism was aimed at Joshua's lack of faith...my first post on this page reflects what I think more accurately, minus having the wrong company name.

[NGTM-1R]

And no, the point didn't sail over my head.

Actually it did. You interpreted an if-then as a categorical statement.

While semi-true, he's always had an eye-in-the-sky or somebody else who can at least give directions to where he needs to go and interface with whatever bizarre machinery is required. (Even if it's the Gravemind.) Cortana has served this role before, but it's never been needed so badly either.

Dropping him an environment without either and no maps is basically a prescription to run in circles. Thus why I said Cortana is probably going to become a much bigger, or at least more important, character..or the game will be bizarre.

[Scotty]

And you're interpreting the chief as a one trick pony, as it were.  Just because all we've seen is one trick does not make him incapable of others.  The absence of an eye in the sky figure (indeed, there isn't an absence, in the form of Cortana) is no more a prescription to run in circles than seeing an unoccupied tank is a prescription to massacre friendlies.  Could you do it?  Yes.  Would you do it?  If you're that special kind of crazy, yes.  Is it the logical conclusion?  No.

Spartans, by all in-game, in-fiction, and other in-universe accounts, specifically excel at vague direction low profile operations.  This fits the bill to a t.

[FlamingCobra]

I can see it now...

"Chief, looks like we won't be going anywhere until we can fix this plasma pump."

"Don't worry Cortana, I'm a mechanic. I can fix anything."

2 hours later...........

Player: O MY GOD WAT THE **** IS THIS ****!?

Other puzzles will probably include hitting a forerunner switch on one side of the room and then racing against a rising tide of lava to another switch on the other side of the room all the while fighting an army of sentinels.


You know, I'm really going to miss Sargent Johnson's motivational speeches in this game.

"We are going to blow the hell out of those dumb bugs until we don't have anything left to shoot 'em with! And then we are going to strangle them with their own. living. guts."
AM I RIGHT MARINES?

[deathfun]

Hmm mhmm, DAMN RIGHT I AM

[Beskargam]

Dear Humanity... We regret being alien bastards. We regret coming to Earth. And we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!!

[redsniper]

Marathon

Oh god, we can only hope...

* redsniper drools at the possibility

[JCDNWarrior]

Well, if you read the books, specifically Fall of Reach, to a lesser extent First Strike, there's a lot more information and character building on the Master Chief, even then, being less-defined than other characters could also open up more abilities to develop or reveal more about him.

I'm very curious how Halo 4, and subsequently 5 and 6 will turn out. There's most definitely space to use and further develop the universe in less war-like situations like the Human-Covenant war. I hope 343 won't screw up to make a somewhat easy buck.

Also curious, think they'll keep Halo 4 for the next Xbox? It would seem like a good way to sell that next console.

[achtung]

Also curious, think they'll keep Halo 4 for the next Xbox? It would seem like a good way to sell that next console.

Halo 4 is going to be 360 exclusive. 5 and 6 are going to be "720" exclusives.

[Charismatic]

Halo 3 was we saved the world by setting off a halo ring which rid the galaxy of the flood right? We teamed up with the covenant.
So with the galaxy saved and a temporary cease fire with our covenant enemies/friends, that whole plot line was fulfilled.

So its kind of a natural direction to explore and run into new enemies..., sounds good to me.