[IceFire]

The GTB Atlas' neck seems...wonky...Maybe it's just me...

It might be the horrible smoothing I did to the render....and it may be the angle too.  Perhaps some small geometry change to the pods at the backs to smooth them back into the hull would work?  The Atlas there is revision one, so its just fresh off Aldo's brain and its already quite quite quite good.  So a few tweaks are probably in order.

[aldo_14]

I think (with the Atlas), it's because there is a set of differently shaped side 'pods', which blend into the fuselage - so you can't really make them out from that angle, and it looks like the neck is twisted or bumpy there.

Ditto with the Nephele - there's a small raised laser pod there which changes the shape.  The Nephele is fairly detailed underneath... I think it's pretty neat IMO

One the textures are done - which will be awhile, probably, as I need to work very slowly on the 1st model to try and make sure I'm getting the look Icefire want - the shape of each model will be a lot more apparent

[morris13]

Those are some NICE NICE models. Especially the cruiser, very smooth and elegant. A far far cry from the blocky models you were making a year ago. Lets hear it for progress!

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by morris13
Those are some NICE NICE models. Especially the cruiser, very smooth and elegant. A far far cry from the blocky models you were making a year ago. Lets hear it for progress!

Not 'alf

[IceFire]

Anyone a good 2D animator around here (sorry to change subject)?

I'm looking for someone to make some minor evolutionary changes to the subspace animation as well as all new flak explosions and a few other things.

[Alikchi]

Do you mean the warp ani or subspace itself?

[IceFire]

The Warp ANI.  I want to keep it "the same" but "different".

[Black Wolf]

Dfferent how? Colour changes and the like are very simple to do, so if that's all you want, tell me the colour and I'll do it for you. Other than that, I may be able to do some stuff (I'm quite proficient with PSP 7), but I'll need more specifics.

If you don't want to tell eveyone on the forum, PM me.

[aldo_14]

Could make it with max...2 contra rotational opaqued textured cones (maybe), which expand, roate, shrink.  And a pulsing light of some sort.

[Alikchi]

I know Inferno has a modified one. Darkage did it, I think.

[IceFire]

The Inferno one...if its the same as the OTT one is a warping applied to the ani...nothing is really changed.

What I'd like to see is something that looks like the one we know....but with some added effects.  I want it to look a little more violent....a swirling blue vortex with streams coming from it and the whole deal.  But it has to look good

So its not just a color change....its a visual change.  Probably something for Max or Lightwave people.  I'd like it to be LIKE the old one...but new

[Nico]

lol, maybe you're asking too much this time

[Fineus]

Certainly you should add some more colors in though - I mean the current one just isn't very interesting in the color department... and I don't think I'm understanding this wrong - you should be able to have loads of different colors in there if you got the urge to...

[Nico]

mmh, would be a bit fancy, a rainbow subspace rift
I'd rather add sparks, lightnings, clouds of gaz bursting form the subspace corridor, stuff like that.

[Fineus]

Good point, I wonder if it's possible to run multiple animations at once one over the other... that way you could have selectable colors, lightning and so on around the portal - it could be much more customisable. Obviously thats a job for the source code I think...

[Raven2001]

Those good enough???

[Bobboau]

I need to check this forum more often

I say aldo is defanantly in,
coments\critiques on the four models

eos- very nice, only change I would make is shortening the neck and lowering the cockpit

Atlas- don't like this one as well, but it has defanant potential, it's the front section that doesn't look right

Nephele- great, only thing I'd do is change the cockpit so it doesn't look so much like the one on the Eos (and perseus), maybe add a litle more detail

Demeter- very good, looks like the back end is missing... something, though


also like that Loki from hell, but it isn't quite what we're looking for (the lines are too hard)

Raven

you're models arn't bad, but there too herc\pers-like
the only one I realy like is the Aurvandil, but it defanantly needs some more work

hey Icefire I just thought of something, do you think we could use my Dark Breed ships, I know a few other people are going to be useing them, but I could make a few changes, make them a bit more tarren, a few of them are a bit bizzar (like the Satyr gunship) but they were disigned as Tarren-Vasudan-Shivan hybrids, unfortunately they were designed as evil TVS ships but the Corybant and Silenus could defanantly work
(also these names fit the naming convention for hybrids, they are roman nature gods (sort of on the nasty side) the nameing convention places T-V hybrids as roman (Ulysses is the roman vertion of Odysseus))

[IceFire]

eos- very nice, only change I would make is shortening the neck and lowering the cockpit

Atlas- don't like this one as well, but it has defanant potential, it's the front section that doesn't look right

Nephele- great, only thing I'd do is change the cockpit so it doesn't look so much like the one on the Eos (and perseus), maybe add a litle more detail

Demeter- very good, looks like the back end is missing... something, though

Eos was modified a bit since then and is in the game looking very nice.  I should post pictures.

The Demeter now has a small bridge at the front...so it looks very cool and when it gets turrets it will be fine.  Nephele I love

Atlas I think its the angle that makes it look bad.  In 3D is just great

hey Icefire I just thought of something, do you think we could use my Dark Breed ships, I know a few other people are going to be useing them, but I could make a few changes, make them a bit more tarren, a few of them are a bit bizzar (like the Satyr gunship) but they were disigned as Tarren-Vasudan-Shivan hybrids, unfortunately they were designed as evil TVS ships but the Corybant and Silenus could defanantly work
(also these names fit the naming convention for hybrids, they are roman nature gods (sort of on the nasty side) the nameing convention places T-V hybrids as roman (Ulysses is the roman vertion of Odysseus))

We may be able to use them....the thing is that I've done something very specific in the way that GTVA ships are setup.  There is a logical balance to them....a purpose to the way they work.  Adding extra ships kind of disrupts the balance.  But we may be able to fit them in somewhere....or modified to be Shivan ships...or who knows.

I may want to have a few ships from the Independant Colonies...so maybe that Arvadril ship would work.  I think Aldo is going to remain in charge of main GTVA military stuff but that leaves plenty of other ships to work on.

Before anyone really starts building stuff for the Campaign, you should have a look at the Internal Document.  Ask me about that.

[Nico]

seems you won't need me at all after all
I would like to get a look at that doc anyway

[Kellan]

The Dark Breed ships would definitely look good as Shivan. Very spiky.

Having seen the Eos, I can second the fact that it KICKS ASS. I also love all the other ships aldo has done though - the Atlas in particular for looking like such a deadly bird of death...and having those asseymetrical pods on the nosecone. Asseymetry is good.

Raven, your ships remind me of something our of Privateer or something. Which is cool...they're maybe not as smooth and organic looking as GTVA Terran ships should look, but there might still be room for them... *goes off to find IceFire...*

And venom, we always want your ships! They are SUPAR (and we need your texturing, hehe ).