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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/995452-mass-effect-3/62230265

Claimed account of what the original pre-release endings were supposed to be. Sounds a lot like what I would expect out of the series. It's just a random forum post though, so grain of salt.
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
quoting it in case it goes away ever

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After checking these boards, bioware forums, the twitters of various people involved with the game, audio file rips as well as some information I've gathered from other sources, I decided to talk with someone who used to run their own review website who still has ties to some people in the video game industry. That includes Bioware (they had sent him early review copies of the first ME). Anyway that's not what's important. The point is what I'm about to say you can take with a grain of salt if you want. I'm not here for attention or because I'm a fanboy of bioware. I'm simply here to help you all make sense of this situation. It will make a lot of sense and put the little things you've all found together. The reasoning for the ending change was they needed more time to implement it (this was supposed to be the reason for the delay) but Kinect implementation and the desire by some people (perhaps EA) to have an ending where things are left to interpretation messed with this. The ending was quickly altered which is why things don't "fit" and there are plot holes. Anyway, below is how things were supposed to happen.

The original ending was SUPPOSED to be extremely varied. Everything remained the same up until the part when Harbinger shoots at you and your team. This is when information that has appeared here already comes into play. There were going to be various outcomes determining how you reached the citadel and it was HOW you got there that determined what endings would be available to you. The following were the different scenarios from worst to best (based on EMS and war assets)

A: Your whole squad gets wiped out (the two crew members you took with you, Anderson). You struggle to make it to the citadel. Right as you're about to make it to the beam, Harbinger talks to you, saying you've been defeated and he kills you. Joker tries to swoop down to save you, but he also gets shot down.

B: Most of your squad gets wiped out. Still only you are able to make it to the citadel. Once up there, you must confront the illusive man alone. Because of this, unless you have high reputation and either talk him down or renegade interrupt and shoot him, he kills you and tries to control the reapers, but fails as he discovers he was indoctrinated.

C: You and Anderson make it up to the citadel together and make your way to the control panel where you confront TIM. The same thing plays out where you can talk him down. With high enough reputation, you can "save" Anderson but its not necessary for you to make it to the next part. Anderson dies after TIM is shot or kills himself like in the ending we got.

D: You and Anderson make it up to the citadel together while you're two squad maters, who clearly survive, are holding off the reapers from following you to the citadel. Everything continues the same here as "C" until after TIM is shot and killed and the final conversation that Anderson and Shepard have (which is much longer than what we got). You get the shorter convo in C.

[The following you only see with outcome "C' and "D"] Shepard looks out at the war going on and activates the crucible. Hacketts says its not working. This is when Harbinger talks to Shepard through TIM as he lies on the ground. Harbinger tries to convince you that you've fail but you can argue with him. Harbinger says that he has your crew in his cross hairs. We see the Normandy arrive (the joker dialogue that was cut) and the rest of your friends help the two squad members you brought with you face off against Harbinger and his reaper minions.
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You basically have a choice. You can submit to him and he claims he will spare your squad and earth until the next cycle because he is impressed that you were able to make it this far. This is when the motive of the reapers is more clearly established. Harbinger reveals that in the previous cycle, the prothean empire became too vast and they began to control all the other races, which would have prevented all of our races from developing. However, through more discussion, Shepard can uncover their true motives. They fear that they will be rivaled by something more powerful than they are (that this cycle will create AI that can topple the reapers). This implies they are merely fearful for their own survival and that is why they purge all life but they convince themselves they are protecting us.

Either way, you can submit to him and save your people or take your chances. Having 4000 EMS, not submitting to him you would lose everyone, but still eventually get to the three choices we actually got (more on this in a second). Having 5000+ and depending on how you resolved conflicts between characters and races, certain people will live or die.

After rejecting him (whether you lose everyone or not), you end up in the area where vent boy was but hes not there. It's just you and "Harbinger". He explains that a new solution is needed. The solution he tries to convince you to take is merge (to perseve his kind). But if you have high enough reputation once again, you can open the control and destroy option. Harbinger tries to talk you out of it by discussing how your races are divided and mentioning the geth incident. You convince him otherwise, and it is at this point, the control option opens next where he admits that shepard may have a perspective he never considered. Harbinger tells Shepard that if he destroys them, the relays will be destroyed as will the geth (which is true. This is the only ending where the relays are destroyed).

Now for the four endings.

If you submit to him before the three main choices, the reapers leave earth but end up wiping out every other race who haven't proved themselves worthy. Shepard dies.

If you merge, the reapers leave and like the ending we got, we see all the characters we know with green eyes as a green light brightens the sky. Shepard dies for the same reasons in the ending we got.

The control option, the reapers leave. Everyone cautiously celebrates while joker and your LI look up to the sky and wonder what exactly happened. Life goes on but its hinted that the reaper threat may return. This ending ends on a cliffhanger.

The destroy ending does destroy the relays, but its implied that with all the races on earth, they, together, will restore what they lost and will attempt to work together. if shepard lives, your LI leading your squad, will be looking for you. You are beamed back down to earth (its assumed shepard was somehow blasted into the beam? this is the only questionable part). It ends with shepard's hand coming out of the rubble and breathing. Still a cliffhanger of sorts, but you can assume they will find him/her obviously.

I dunno if it's legit, but it's better than what we got.

e: Honestly, the 'I know a review guy' thing smacks of fabrication.

 

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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
This sounds soo good and varied that: a) a fan came up with it b) an ea executive shot it down last minute cause of too much complexity for the halo crowd
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]


Post-ending DLC incoming. Calling it now.

EDIT: Also this

EDIT2: Maybe there's some merit to the "trolling" idea.



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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
With all the hate going on, at bioware's place, I wouldn't have resisted either.
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
Sounds like a lot of talking with reapers.  I could listen to reaper voice processing forever.
10:55:48   TurambarBlade: i've been selecting my generals based on how much i like their hats
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
I've had enough of this ****...
I
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ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

Calling it here and right now: April 1st: Release of FREE DLC "One More Story..." with the real endings of ME 3

Reason will be something like "They couldnt finish it in time but were in contractual obligation to release at date" or something similar

RELEASING CONTROL
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
If that was true, it would have been ****ing awesome

 

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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
Casey Hudson is a good guy. He's not the kind of PR flack who would straight-up lie about something like this. Yet we didn't end up with 'the final moments, where it's going to be different for everyone who plays it'; we had three palette-swapped cutscenes. So the question is - what happened?

That was 2/17 and, as the very first question states, the game had gone gold by that point. I find it very difficult to believe that the ending was modified after the game went gold which only leaves a few options (along the lines of LOL WE SENT THE WRONG BUILD OFF LOL or "I, uh, I haven't played the game") if Hudson isn't a liar.
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The idea that anyone isn't capable of shilling for a paycheck is one I find hard to credit.
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
Some people believe their reputation is more important than money.  It used to be that MOST people though that.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Kaloneous/Mass_Effect_3_%28True%29_Ending_DLC_Revealed!!!!

Wild speculation? The guy was apparently dead-on about multiplayer DLC before this.
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
http://i.imgur.com/xjXdX.png

If Bioware really pulls this off, they will go down as the biggest trolls in history

 

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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
I want to believe

 

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April / Free / "The Truth"

got 2 out of three
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
Imagine that humans develop starflight and go to an ocean planet. For millions of years they watch over this planet from their boats on the surface. Every few thousand years they fish all the fish to death and wait for fish to evolve again from the life that's left.

Finally, after said millions of years, a brave fish flops his way up onto one of the boats in reverse scuba gear. Why are you doing this, he begs. Why do you wipe out all fish in the ocean every fifty thousand years.

Well, the million year old human boat admiral says, some day those fish will evolve into land animals, and overfish all the fish in the ocean to death. We're trying to prevent that by only killing most of the fish in the ocean.

But now that you're here, we're going to give you three choices: you can blow up all the boats and also kill all the lungfishes that sometimes survive on land, plus you'll poison the seas and cause mass die-offs. Or you can become supreme captain of all the boats. Or you can turn all fish into fishboats because you brought along a nine-volt battery to plug into our boat engine.

No matter what happens all your fish friends are going to be stuck in a pond, **** you

 

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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
"I have approximate knowledge of many things."

Ridiculous, the Director's Cut

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Some people believe their reputation is more important than money.  It used to be that MOST people though that.

Few people believe that their reputation is worth more than the ability to continue living in the style they do at this moment. Few people ever have.
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]


Hahaha, oh wow.
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Re: Mass Effect 3: You Invaded the Wong Planet [SPOILERS]
I just came here to post that and I'm going to post it anyway so that everyone can see it twice



jesus christ, denton